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#1 aus


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 06:27 PM

The Australian Liberal government has just voted out the hard right Prime Minister Tony Abbott and replaced him with Malcolm Turnbull. He is more moderate so it might be a turn to the left.

The British Labour Party has voted a socialist as leader and in th USa the main democrat    rival to Hilry Clinton is a socialist.

Is the world turning to the left?

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 02:48 AM

Not necessarily. Just because a candidate is a socialist doesn't mean he'll get elected, or even get the nomination. As for Jeremy Corbyn's , Alistair Campbell, Tony Blair's chief spin doctor, said if he was elected he would "make Labour unelectable for the next 20 years".

As a Conservative voter, I am troubled by Corbyn's election. "Never do what your opponents want you to do" is a wise philosophy, and an awful lot of Conservatives were very happy that Corbyn won. That can't be good - a poor/weak Opposition is not a good thing for the country.

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 08:02 PM

Jackiddley, It is dfficult to discuss a political topic that concerns three countries. I am not fully aware of the situation in Britain. Has Labour no chance of being elected under a Socialist leader? In the past under such men as Bevan, Labour was elected under a socialist leader. People tend to turn to the left when the poor and workers suffer  under spending cuts. This is the situation in Australia. Labor was leading here while Abbott was PM. Now that a more moderate conservative leader is PM it will be harder for Labor. However as he won by only ten votes he may be forced to continue some hard right policies.. You are right you should "never do what your opponents want you to do:. Labor in getting rid of Abbott might have made it harder for them to win. However with 5 PMs in five years I think both sides In Australia are making the same mistake.


I am sure the Democrats in the USA wuld like Trump to be the Republican candidate.  But I suspect the Republicans will go for a more moderate canidate. Even to suggest a socialist has any hope in the USA is amazing. In the end I suspect any movement to the left will be to the moderate left. Both right and left would have a better chance it they kept towards the centre.

Edited by aus, 15 September 2015 - 08:03 PM.

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