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#55528 - 05/29/06 07:44 AM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress sexy? **** [Re: akashic2]
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Lol, only 12 years to go for her.

One year to go for me, she's doing fine so far, she got some class from somewhere...most odd!

Ginger and proud (of it).

Dats mah/attagurrl!!!
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#55529 - 07/27/06 04:28 AM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress in a sexy way? [Re: Mystic]
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It is called lack of moral up bringing on the part of the parents.
Children are not taught to respect themselves or anyone else now like they were when I was growing up.
Young women today are raising themselves by watching TV and magazines like Style, etc. There is no one in the school teaching them right from wrong and there seems to be a real lack of home teaching as well.
We took God out of the schools and regulations off the TV and media and Saten is running free.

I wonder why people look around and shake their heads when they realize our young for the most part have not conscience. And they will be the leaders of tomorrow that will be making the rules about what will happen to the elderly. (us)

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#55530 - 07/27/06 12:09 PM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress in a sexy way?
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Loc: Canada
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We took God out of the schools and regulations off the TV and media and Saten is running free.




Well, at least his big brother Satan hasn't hit the scene yet.

Okay, kidding aside, Welcome to FoolMoon

Now, allow me to humbly disagree with you about that... because other countries have secular school systems (or non-christian ones) and don't face the problems brought up in this thread. It's a direct result of parental failure and society as a whole encouraging the behaviour.... not so much to do with if they can read their bibles in class instead of later.
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#55531 - 07/27/06 08:58 PM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress in a sexy way? [Re: Kiari]
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Who took god out of the schools? Or do you mean they stopped having teachers read your bible to children in a public school?

I agree many parents have lost control of their children but it is a complicated issue with a lot of elements affecting our behavior. I also agree that turning off the TV on occasion whould be a great idea. I'm afraid reading bible verses to children and expecting them to dress and behave differently is a bit of a stretch.

I don't mind the attempt at sexy as much as I just hate bad taste. And that runs through the whole of society.

Just my opinion of course. Tats
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#55532 - 07/28/06 02:10 AM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress in a sexy way?
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Registered: 08/14/02
Loc: Around Buffalo NY, USA
Welcome to Fool Moon Kandy.

Actually, what I'm seeing more and more here in what the kids are wearing, are not "sexy". Here, Tripp pants are in style. They're very loose fitting, not tight at all. There's also Trip shorts.

My adolescent daughter likes t-shirts, mainly music groups and singers. Most of her friends are the same. When she got a bathing suit for this year, she picked out a pretty conservative one piece suit.

What is "sexy" for a pre-teen? Wouldn't one have to look at it with each outfit? When I was growing up in the late 60's and into the 70's mid riff outfits were popular with women and girls. I see pics of myself wearing these outfits and they weren't sexy at all.

What's wrong with Style magazine? I read magazines like that when I was growing up and I didn't dress "sexy" or inappropriately in school. Nor do I now. It's part of growing up and trying to find oneself.

With two of my three kids in their adolescence, I don't see such a bleak future, Kandy. My children are kind, caring, non-violent, polite, etc. And none of them have ever read any part of the Bible. Parenting is the issue, not religion. Good parenting generally produces good kids.

I find our public school here very lacking in many ways and see a lot of problems with it. But none have to do with religion, God or the Bible.
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#55533 - 04/30/07 11:35 AM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress in a sexy way? [Re: Mystic]
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Registered: 10/03/06
Loc: California
Mystic(assuming of course you are in America), you are right parents should be governing what their kids wear. Don't you just think a young girl's dress isn't meant to be provacative as much as these kids are copying the stars they so idolize in the media...Britney Spears and Paris Hilton?

The parents of these girls become acclimated to the photos all around them displaying teen something (18 or so) wearing this type of clothing. Check out the ads around FM, occasionally an advertiser will slip in a sexy young model blowing kisses and wearing a low cut top. The next flash will show her behind... Right here on FM (there is another thread for that).

My point is this stuff is everywhere, by the time an 11 year old shops at Dillards with her Mom the entire Social Structure has accepted this form of dress for every female 6 and older. Available in sizes 6X to 12 and into woman sizes- clothing like this sells. Women, many women and men are purchasing questionable clothing for their daughter to wear, thanks to the buyer at Dillards, thanks to the pressure from the media...

Do I personally think it is wrong? Yes, I do. In general our culture simply lacks good aesthetics when it comes to dress. Mystic, our country would have to form
a "fashionista police"... I also don't want that, although schools would be a great place to begin establishing a children's dress code, but then this has lead to law suits in the past.. Freedom of Speech, etc...

to quote H L Mencken -No one ever lost a nickle underestimating the taste of the American public.
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#275699 - 07/17/08 12:53 AM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress sexy? [Re: Anonymous]
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please check out Theologyofthebody.com

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#275725 - 07/17/08 11:57 AM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress sexy? [Re: Anonymous]
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Registered: 09/22/00
Loc: Arkansas, USA
Originally by: Anonymous
please check out Theologyofthebody.com

Why?

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#275796 - 07/17/08 03:47 PM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress sexy? [Re: Ray]
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Registered: 07/16/08
Loc: Georgia, USA
Originally by: Ray
Originally by: Anonymous
please check out Theologyofthebody.com

Why?


Yea.. what he said...
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#276186 - 07/21/08 07:31 PM Re: Pre-teen girls - should they be allowed to dress sexy? [Re: Bear505]
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Registered: 08/03/99
Loc: Canada
No, I'm not in America, but the problem exists here as well. I find it interesting though that in America, they are making new laws that see young teens fined for wearing inappropriate clothing such as baggy pants that show more than 3" of underwear. And what about the young girls who have been booted from airplanes because their clothing was considered too provocative for the flight?

As long as there are stars making movies and music videos portraying women and young girls in skimpy clothes, we'll continue to have these issues. Teens look to these people to provide a role model for them.

Soooo glad that I had 3 sons instead of daughters. heheh
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