Quantcast
  Welcome to Fool Moon. Registration is FREE and easy. Please take the time to register on our forum and enjoy our community. Why should you register?

  By registering with the forum, you will be able to edit your member profile and preferences. You will get the most out of your time here if you change your profile and preferences to suit your individual tastes. There are many options in your profile to make your experience here more enjoyable, so please take a few moments to try the various settings. Once you've registered and logged in, click "Edit Profile" or "Edit Preference" in the Forum Navigation island to edit your settings. Register now: it's fast, free, and easy!

Who's Online
8 registered (Grams, Aint, Chocolategenii, Helice, Dax, WakeHolden, MamaJean, Myrddin), 65 Guests and 59 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Sponsors
Shout Box

Good Stuff

affordable web hosting and cheap domains

Photo Gallery
The Whole Kitten Kaboodle
Davis Mountains, Texas
Annie Oakley Six Gun Special
Main concealed carry gun.
My gun collection by Wakeholden
Spring lawn flowers
Future ruler of the world.
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >
New Reply
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:
#301012 - 07/02/09 06:52 PM What if we don't pay the demon?
Christian Cagigal Offline
new member

Registered: 06/18/09
Loc: S.F. Bay Area
On another thread I posted how I was going to see a show on the 4th of July, a comedy, musical, African Tale about the credit system. This is a very liberal political theatre company that I used to be a member of for a few years.

If you'd like to know more google The San Francisco Mime Troupe.

Okay this maybe a spoiler for those of you in the Bay Area who may come to see the show this Summer but, at the end of the show the village realizes that they a have been believing in some kind of 'magic' when really it was all a 'trick'. The people of the village also realized that they have well paid off their debt to the Demon and if they want to release themselves of the Demon's spell they have to.....

stop paying their "debt" to the demon!

And, the demon will FALL!

And, everyone will be released from it's spell!

....thoughts......?

I know sometimes these open ended questions can be annoying on a forum but since I have established (to myself) that you are all much smarter than me, I'd love to hear (or read) any thoughts on this hypothetical situation.

What if even a third of the credit card debt owing population of America just stopped paying their debt? If not a third, half then, 3 quarters, ALL, THE WORLD!!!!!

What would happen....?

C

Top Reply Quote Quick Reply Quick Quote
#301028 - 07/03/09 04:12 AM Re: What if we don't pay the demon? [Re: Christian Cagigal]
Happy Birthday lizbeth Offline
loyal member
***

Registered: 11/29/06
Loc: PNW
I really haven't had time to think the question through, Christian, but here are my thoughts so far.

The 'demon' isn't really the credit card companies with their outrageous interest rates and very 'fine print' agreements. If I recall correctly, credit cards were initiated in order to provide businessmen and the companies to which they were affiliated with, an 'easy' way to keep track of, and pay for, business expenses; however, given the success of the 'business' credit card, companies were formed to extend totally unregulated credit to the general public. This is the entrepreneurial way in the US, after all.

But, are those credit card companies the 'demon,' or is the demon not 'envy and greed' among the US population? Is it envy that leads the US public to 'need' what's offered to them, especially when it's offered to everyone, no matter who can pay for it outright and who has to go into credit debt in order to get the 'new toy?'

Closely tied to that is US greed--the need to have more and better than anyone else. It makes no difference to the average citizen of the US that most of the 'toys' they're buying come from other countries--so long as they can buy! And if they buy on credit, so what? It's so convenient--just put that plastic down, man, put that plastic down.

Given that atmosphere and the fact that credit card companies have been totally unregulated--can change their interest rates whenever in order to give their investors a good return on their investment dollars--and you have a good view of how the entrepreneurial US economy works.

What would happen if everyone (everyone, that is, who thinks that 'credit' or credit card companies are the demon) stopped paying on their credit card bills? I don't know. I think, however, that before they did that, they'd have to cut their credit cards into quarters and throw them all away.

Please notice that I'm only talking about the US population and not about the 'American' population. The American population is far greater than the US population and credit within the Americas and the World is part of the system of trade.

Also, it seems to me, the bulk of the world cannot pay off its debt,

Would simply canceling any country's debt to any other country--hey, let's just wipe the slate clean and say no one owes anything to anyone else so we can all start all over from a zero baseline do anything.

I think not.
_________________________
Tomorrow's just your future yesterday. Craig Ferguson

Top Reply Quote Quick Reply Quick Quote
#301030 - 07/03/09 04:44 AM Re: What if we don't pay the demon? [Re: lizbeth]
Red Offline
veteran member

Registered: 04/27/09
First, the credit used is our responsibility. But a close second is the way credit card companies are allowed to use deception and deception through complication to lure in applicants, and then they are allowed to change the game midstream. If you bought a car and decided 1 year down the road you wanted leather seats and sent a deceptive letter filled with mumbo jumbo to the car manufacturer that if they didn't deny your request in 15 days then they would have to replace your seats for leather ones - well that wouldn't fly now would it. But that is what credit cards are allowed to do.
_________________________
Doing my part to stick it to THE MAN!

Top Reply Quote Quick Reply Quick Quote
#301032 - 07/03/09 04:54 AM Re: What if we don't pay the demon? [Re: Red]
Happy Birthday lizbeth Offline
loyal member
***

Registered: 11/29/06
Loc: PNW
Isn't that what I said?
_________________________
Tomorrow's just your future yesterday. Craig Ferguson

Top Reply Quote Quick Reply Quick Quote
#301037 - 07/03/09 09:33 AM Re: What if we don't pay the demon? [Re: lizbeth]
Dax Online   content

Administrator
*****

Registered: 08/01/99
Loc: New York, NY (New York)
When credit cards are not regulated, it reminds me of the old Dick Cavett joke about a zookeeper who took down all the bars and ran the zoo on the honor system.

Top Reply Quote Quick Reply Quick Quote
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4 >

Quick Reply:
HTML is disabled
UBBCode is disabled




Moderator:  Aint, Chocolategenii, MamaJean 
Town Meeting
Colonial Conservative Christians aka Puritans first to ban Christmas
by Aint
39 minutes 19 seconds ago
Why are US Taxpayers paying for the Imam's Tour of the Middle East?
by amboss
Today at 01:35 PM
Questions Regarding the So-Called Surge
by Dax
Today at 10:27 AM
Gingrich: Obama = Nazi
by lizbeth
Today at 02:31 AM
Israel a threat to peace.
by aus22
Yesterday at 09:31 PM
Repealing the Fourteenth Amendment
by Dax
Yesterday at 07:24 PM
Glenn Beck at the Lincoln Memorial...sorry MLK...didn't know.
by Aint
Yesterday at 05:00 PM
Off-shore Out-sourcing
by Aint
08/31/10 10:30 PM
Russia Bans Wheat Export
by lizbeth
08/31/10 08:30 PM
The Gas Price Update
by lizbeth
08/28/10 10:21 PM
Fox News connection to Ground Zero Mosque revealed
by Dax
08/27/10 09:03 PM
No Warrant Needed For GPS
by Aint
08/27/10 02:33 PM
RFID implant laws not a joke
by Aint
08/24/10 10:53 PM
Kudos to Blair
by aus22
08/24/10 08:27 PM
Just Like Cross China Traffic
by aus22
08/24/10 08:23 PM
Lets Say The US Invades Iran
by cassielA
08/24/10 07:54 PM
Black President? No Way!
by cassielA
08/24/10 07:45 PM
Seniors to get $250 Donut Hole checks in mail soon
by WakeHolden
08/24/10 02:17 PM
Is the Australian elections a prelude to the future?
by aus22
08/23/10 09:07 PM
Michelle Obama's Trip to Spain
by Aint
08/23/10 04:51 PM
St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church
by Aint
08/22/10 10:23 PM
Bye Bye Baghdad
by Aint
08/22/10 12:41 AM
Anti Gay Marriage Prop 8 Ruled Unconstitutional in Calif.
by jackdiddley
08/21/10 04:02 PM
3 Children Buy and Fly Alone
by Chocolategenii
08/20/10 01:14 PM
Gov't Takeover of Internet
by Dax
08/20/10 08:59 AM
Science and Technology
Victory In The Season Of Death
by Aint
10 minutes 27 seconds ago
Stones Channel
by stone
08/31/10 11:17 PM
Siemens OCC Electric Chopper
by stone
08/31/10 10:27 PM
Favorite Fool Moon Recipes
by Dax
08/30/10 07:41 PM
Eyes
by Grams
08/30/10 12:20 PM
My Sweet Babe
by Grams
08/29/10 05:39 PM
Corn Salad
by Dax
08/29/10 01:21 PM
DID A MUNCHKIN HANG HIMSELF DURING FILMING OF THE WIZARD OF OZ?
by Dax
08/29/10 12:21 PM
Laptop computer suggestions
by MamaJean
08/27/10 08:32 AM
Hey! What's Growin' On?
by lizbeth
08/27/10 05:10 AM
Listeria Hysteria
by Aint
08/24/10 11:07 PM
I'ts Not The Cholesterol. It's The Salmonella.
by Dax
08/24/10 10:56 AM
Does anyone suffer from migraines?
by Mystic
08/23/10 11:29 PM
ARTHRITIS
by Grams
08/20/10 05:51 PM
Heart-Burn
by Grams
08/20/10 05:40 PM
Plastic in our Food Chain
by lizbeth
08/16/10 06:54 AM
Russia Is On Fire.
by Dax
08/14/10 11:38 AM
The Science And Art of Magic
by Dax
08/11/10 10:12 AM
Trouble connecting to websites
by stone
08/09/10 01:31 PM
End of Net Neutrality
by Dax
08/08/10 10:38 AM
Faith and Philosophy
May 21, 2011
by Dax
Today at 08:41 AM
Baptism
by Grams
Yesterday at 11:21 AM
The YHWH No One Knows
by aus22
08/30/10 09:05 PM
LETTER TO AN ATHEIST
by Grams
08/30/10 06:41 AM
ASKING YOU :)
by DCInC
08/30/10 12:45 AM
HOW DID YOU GET SAVED
by Grams
08/25/10 04:38 PM
Religious Makeup of the Supreme Court
by DCInC
08/23/10 01:36 PM
On the first Day........
by Grams
08/22/10 05:45 PM
An E-Mail Too Cute Not To Share......
by Grams
08/22/10 02:36 PM
Unforgivable Sin
by DCInC
08/22/10 01:46 AM
Grandma's Bible
by Grams
08/21/10 05:13 PM
SOME MYTHS ABOUT SATAN
by DCInC
08/17/10 01:21 AM
Pure Inspiration
by aus22
08/11/10 09:13 PM
Religous Humor
by MamaJean
08/11/10 03:07 PM
Spiritual roller coaster ride!
by DCInC
08/09/10 11:06 PM
La Familia Michoacana-the faith -based drug cartel.
by DCInC
08/09/10 08:09 PM
This Is Beautiful! The U in JesUs
by DCInC
08/08/10 11:50 PM
Can you relate?
Just Wanted to Say
by Aint
24 minutes 38 seconds ago
NFL - You Pick 2010
by deifan
Yesterday at 10:06 AM
Free advice for the lonely and lovesick of Fool Moon
by WakeHolden
Yesterday at 06:35 AM
Chupacabras, Mexican Reptilians in Disguise
by WakeHolden
Yesterday at 06:23 AM
What are you reading?
by LadyPuma
08/31/10 03:44 PM
Film Noir
by Dax
08/30/10 05:20 PM
NCAA College Football 2010
by deifan
08/30/10 02:51 PM
Fantasy Football 2010
by MamaJean
08/26/10 01:00 AM
dental listening device!...
by WakeHolden
08/23/10 03:22 PM
Living Together Before Marriage
by MamaJean
08/21/10 11:58 PM