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#284126 - 10/07/08 11:57 AM Re: Summa Summarum [Re: Chocolategenii]
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I would think that the secret service protecting Obama would be alarmed at a US Senator and US Gov inciting (by implication of being a terrorist) violence against another US Senator.

I heard Rep. Wasserman Schultz speak about where in Clearwater Fl, Palin was speaking (yesterday).. and she mentioned that Palin has only been speaking in the most conservative areas of Florida with a long reputation for voting republican. Now.. sadly... this surprised me a bit, in that.. it doesn't make sense. Unless the VP nominee is being used only in the capacity of shoring up the base.. but with a clear slipping in polls.. I would think, with my lack-of-anything-close-to-understanding-campaign-strategy that this doesn't do much to bring independents and others on the fence into the McCain camp..


Going to CA is about as good of choice as going to Nebraska.. although Nebraska shares it's electoral votes by districts, to me, these types of decisions are clear insights into the panic going on in the McCain campaign.
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#284129 - 10/07/08 12:12 PM Re: Summa Summarum [Re: wanderingspryte]
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McCain's team should have studied Hillary Clinton's strategy which knocked her out of the running. Instead you find many similarities to her blunders and the end might well be the same.

(Bringing in Mrs. Palin as a running mate could only have been the idea of someone on whose toes McCain has stepped.)
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#284149 - 10/07/08 04:45 PM Re: Summa Summarum [Re: Ray]
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I guess the fact that McCain wanted to avoid a debate with Obama,...

Really? And that's a "fact" you say?


http://tinyurl.com/3ro7sc

Yes, McCain wanted to delay that debate because of this economic crisis, at least that's the reason he publicly gave. I would think that the voters would want to see a discussion between Obama and McCain on this issue and others, but that wasn't something McCain seemed to want. I guess that something about a public debate with Obama was making him nervous.


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I mean G. W. Bush, since the vast majority of McCain's votes in senate, support Bush, so obviously McCain is not the maverick he likes to paint himself to be.
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#284153 - 10/07/08 05:39 PM Re: Summa Summarum [Re: Myrddin]
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Yes, McCain wanted to delay that debate because of this economic crisis...

Oh, I see. I'm sorry. I thought you said McCain wanted to "avoid" a debate. Now that I think about it, I could have sworn you said, "avoid" as opposed to "delay." I guess it's just semantics but to me "avoid" means not doing it at all. "Delay" means putting it off for a period of time. Using the word "avoid" seems to imply a reluctance to debate, with of course would be a silly thing to imply given McCain's previous challenge to Obama to do a whole lot of debating.
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#284165 - 10/07/08 11:28 PM Re: Summa Summarum [Re: Ray]
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Delay and avoid point to the same thing in this case. McCain did not want a debate in which the people of the US would want to see some answer to the economic crisis; he does not have any answers since he is cut from the ideological cloth as the failure currently in the Oval Office.

Of course he was eager for debate in August, since at that time the economy wasn't in the depth of crises it is currently, and his choice for VP was not yet shown to be somewhat sub-par for that office.

McCain is on the back foot, and trailing Obama, so avoiding/delaying debate while increasing use of attack ads, might in his mind help slow down his losses.
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