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#284044 - 10/06/08 11:15 AM Songs for the Dear Leader
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This is so cute. It's good to see the great American tradition of campaign songs such as "Happy Days are Here Again" lives on. And the 2008 campaign has featured some enthusiastic musical indoctrination celebration. Please note. This is for amusement purposes only and is NOT to suggest that a cult of personality might be encouraged among the youth of America. Heaven forbid!



Isn't that just darling? smile

. o o (The H**ler Youth clip is a real hoot, too)
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#284060 - 10/06/08 03:31 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: Ray]
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#284073 - 10/06/08 06:13 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: Helice]
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Hey, that's a pretty good one, too. I have another. This one features older children, this time in uniforms, marching and proclaiming that "because of Obama" they will achieve various accomplishments.



Note the chant "Alpha, Omega" with which these youths march. That reference apparently means that Obama is their "messiah," drawing on the Book of Revelation 1:8 which reads "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last."
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#284093 - 10/06/08 11:13 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: Ray]
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The Obama 'Youth Regiment' was apparently organized at the start of the campaign and has been disbanded. All three clips are certainly frightening and shouldn't have been allowed by the higher-ups in the institutions.

But, if the performances were written and presented to parents, that's even more frightening. First, because they apparently reflected what the parents thought; and second, because the parents apparently newer complained that their kids time was spent in a school paid for out of their taxes to further the organizers' political agendas.
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#284135 - 10/07/08 02:49 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: Ray]
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All we can say for sure is that children have always been propagandized at an extremely early age by their parents and teachers with whatever ideology their caretakers are axious to imprint them with, whether it is religious, political, or quasi-religio-politico-symbology.

Numerous examples of such enforced chanting, recitations, singing, tapdancing, parading, pageantry and whatnot can be dragged out, not the least of which can be children made to participate in group prayers which they do not understand, children made to say the Pledge of Allegiance which they do not understand, children made to sing patriotic songs which they do not understand, children made to participate in plays and pageants about historical, political, religious, and fictional events which they do not understand, children made to construct things out of paper and popsicle sticks and glitter to commemorate things they do not understand, children made to recite and invent poems about things they do not understand, children taught to salute, bow, genuflect, courtesy, simper, wink, and kneel to that which they do not understand.... do I need to go on?

Pretty much everything children are taught to do is something they don't previously understand or embrace. The kids shouting blessings in tongues at the paper cutout of Bush are the same as the kids singing songs to Obama.... clueless innocent kids doing these activities to please their parents and teachers for approval. And everyone with an agenda, good or bad, forces it on the kids in their care. I suppose you would argue that teaching kids to pray to God and say the Pledge of Allegiance is "good". In reality it is no different than teaching them to sing songs to Obama or scream blessings at the paper statue of Bush. Just imprinting them with the values of the controlling adults. And the adults doing the imprinting would say it is "good", and those who disagree with those values would say it is "bad" or "creepy".

Do you agree?

Next?
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#284141 - 10/07/08 03:49 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: Helice]
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Originally by: Helice
Numerous examples of such enforced chanting, recitations, singing, tapdancing, parading, pageantry and whatnot can be dragged out, not the least of which can be children made to participate in group prayers which they do not understand, children made to say the Pledge of Allegiance which they do not understand, children made to sing patriotic songs which they do not understand, children made to participate in plays and pageants about historical, political, religious, and fictional events which they do not understand, children made to construct things out of paper and popsicle sticks and glitter to commemorate things they do not understand, children made to recite and invent poems about things they do not understand, children taught to salute, bow, genuflect, courtesy, simper, wink, and kneel to that which they do not understand.... do I need to go on?

Why not, I will:



Originally by: Helice
In reality it is no different than teaching them to sing songs to Obama...

Good point.
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#284144 - 10/07/08 04:16 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: Ray]
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That was pretty piggish. It manages to be hateful, anti-Semitic, and racist all at the same time.

As usual, the first one to reference Hitler in a discussion loses. You've done it twice now; you're a double loser.

If you have any grace at all you'll remove that trash from Fool Moon. This is not a cesspit, despite some people's best efforts.
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#284147 - 10/07/08 04:36 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: Helice]
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Originally by: Helice
That was pretty piggish. It manages to be hateful, anti-Semitic, and racist all at the same time.If you have any grace at all you'll remove that trash from Fool Moon. This is not a cesspit, despite some people's best efforts.

I might agree if you'll be so kind as to explain just what I posted that was "hateful" and/or "anti-Semitic" and/or "racist." This playing of the race/hate card in order to deflect honest criticism by throwing up a smoke screen is getting a little old.

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#284151 - 10/07/08 04:56 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: Ray]
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Perhaps it had something to do with you throwing up a video of a Hitler Youth rally.

That's just me, though.
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#284154 - 10/07/08 05:42 PM Re: Songs for the Dear Leader [Re: stone]
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Perhaps it had something to do with you throwing up a video of a Hitler Youth rally.

Fine. So YOU answer the question, then. How does showing certain obvious similarities between two youth groups being taught and encouraged to praise an individual in almost worshipful tones automatically equate with racism and/or anti-semitism and/or "hate?"
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