Liz has certainly seen and recognized Obama's color or she wouldn't have made the posts she did.

That's what Colbert would say, yes.

As his character on his show, not in real life.

When I see Obama, the first thing I notice is his ears. When I listen to him speak, I notice his voice, delivery and intelligence. Somewhere way down in my consciousness I notice that he's no darker than my daughter after she's been in the sun for a while. The color of his skin is of less importance to me than the size, shape and placement of his ears, which is much, much less important to me than his intelligence.

What is of primary importance to me is whether or not he can achieve what he'll set out to achieve should he be elected. That's going to depend, not on me, but on people who can, on the one hand, deny being color-conscious in social situations while harboring racist thoughts in their hearts.

There is racism in our world, that will never change but we need to understand why there is racism. Sometimes it's because of bad experiences we have had with other races ( Which does'nt mean it's right), and sometimes it's just what we've been taught racism from others who were ignorant and had no clue.

But we should'nt get racism confused with prejudice, because we all have prejudices whether we're white,black,man,woman and child,etc., (Maybe it's just human nature, I'm not saying this is good either).

Some people are predjudice against fat people, some people are prejudice against poor people, some people are prejudice against quiet people, some are prejudice against loud people, etc., it could be any little or big thing we percieve as not liking or not want to be around, but we all have our prejudices.

If we actually tried to get to know people and the reasons they are the way they are, we could better understand each other. We may not agree but at least we can understand.

I'm prejudiced against people who perception of themselves is "perfection"...

Yes, SPM, there is racism and there is predjudice for all the reasons you've given and more. And that's all I was trying to point out in this thread.

I hope Obama, if he's elected, will never be faced with outright racism--no matter to whom that racism is directed. I expect he could be faced with predjudice. I feel he's intelligent enough to deal with predjudice, don't you?

BTW, I prefer French Vanilla ice cream with cantalope. Does that mean I'm prejudiced against people who eat cantalope with chocolate ice cream? No, not unless they happen to be over-weight 30 somethings who still wear the clothes they wore in high school.

But I've already examined that prejudice here in another thread.

Tee hee hee! As one who knows precisely the discussion to which you are referring, that's a pretty damned funny aside. I liked it. (heh, heh)

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programing.

Hey Lawmage !
Take off the rose colored glasses ,when you posted .
You proved to be more of an idealist than a realist (much to my surprise)
Lets face it , according to some of the latest polls.republicans and democrats are running virtually neck on neck.Considering the Bush administrations record, the democrats should be way ahead...but they aren't...why ? I dare say that if Obama were a white candidate and just as eloquent as Obama he would be way ahead in the polls. Racism is a fact of life among the U.S. electorate...some of it conscious but most of it subconscious...it is ingrained in the minds of most , be they black or white, pity but thats the way it is.