I never said it did.


I never said he did.


I've never commented on his reaction to the ad. Actually I can't remember what "his" reaction to the ad was, or if he even had one. I've been commenting on YOUR reaction to it.


The truth is I haven't sent Rush Limbaugh any emails with links to this thread, so it's safe to say he hasn't had any opinion on it one way or another. At least none that I've heard of.

Hey! You suppose he could be one of those "anonymous" readers we get all day long at Fool Moon? Hmm!

Voltaire is great fun to read....and as stated in Candide, when the world seems to be going to hell in a hen's basket..perhaps the only thing that we can do (besides voting with your functional brain) IS TO GO TEND ONE'S GARDEN....

I have a ton of yard work I have been putting off...gotta go!

I would say it doesn't matter other than the fact that if McCain did say that, he'd be an even bigger jackass than he already is.


Well, your suspicions be wrong.

You know, this "liberal" media along with the republican pundits have had a field day with that one sentence. It really is a complete non issue. Now, if Obama came out and starting using things like he came from the ghetto, and is as black as all the other ghetto blackies, vote for me , then yeah, I'd say that's an issue. Saying he doesn't look like those on the currency... ummmm, non issue.

You're frothing over nothing, Law.

Not at all, Stone. You are deliberately missing the point. Obama was saying "they" would tell you he did not look like the people on the money..."They" being the Republicans. He was trying to paint the Republicans as racists who would try to scare voters away from Obama on the basis of his race. It was a deliberate and callow attempt to inject race and racism into the campaign for his own benefit. You may not think it was a big deal or that I am frothing over nothing but I disagree. It is indeed a big deal because it is indicative of what we can expect from Obama: leadership style that plays upon racial tensions to divide Americans.

While I completely disagree with your assessment, I see your point. I think it's a bit dramatic on your part but then, drama is something you're pretty damn good at. Of course the "they" were republicans.

That said, I don't see how that's any worse than the republican's injecting fear in their attempt to scare voters into voting for them. You know, like how if people were to vote democrat, the terrorists will again have the opportunity to attack because, you know, Democrats are weak on defense and all that other bullshit that they've spouted over the last seven years or so... Or the whole nonsense behind color coded threat assessments and what not. This administration has continuously used fear as a tactic to get what they want. The erosion of the Constitution(yeah yeah, you're bias allows you to only see that it occurs under the Democrats) and the piss poor way this war has been executed are two perfect examples of what using fear as a tactic will get you.

Again, I think you're looking a bit too deeply into what he said and you're own anti-Democrat biases are causing you to draw the conclusion that you are.

How about this? (Words taken from a David Horsey political cartoon published in the Seattle P-I on 08-07-08, titled, McCain's Campaign Strategy.

"First, we'll call Obama an 'elitist.' 'When he insists that he grew up poor with a single Mom in Hawaii, we'll say he's an 'exotic.' 'When he says exotic is a code word, we'll say he's playing the race card.' 'When he moves to the center, we'll say he's a flip-flopper. When he doesn't, we'll say he's a wild-eyed liberal.' 'When he draws large crowds, we'll say he's a mere celebrity.' 'When he gives a good speech, we'll say he's too slick.' 'Then, when Obama just ignores you and turns the other cheek?' 'Easy. We'll say he thinks he's Jesus.'"

I don't always agree with Horsey, but I couldn't miss your use of the phrase 'the One,' Ray, in two of your posts within this thread.

Just what, or whom, did you mean by that?

When Obama said "They will tell you..." he was still playing the race card, however the statement he made is essentially true. If the Conservatives could get rid of Obama by using the N word publicly, they would have no problem with that.

What Obama was telling you is that a certain portion of the votes against him will be because of his color, and the Conservatives know that very well, since they are the ones who will be voting that way, and would like very much to get that message across to you, too.

Ray will suggest that Conservatives will vote against Obama because he is liberal, not because of his race, however it's been a very long time since Conservatism and racism were mutually exclusive.

You really never know, Ray. I've seen several jokes or lines from Untrue News on comedy news shows well after they appeared here, so either the same wording was just in the air for everyone, or they lifted stuff off our site.

Since we're neither a primary source news source nor a creator and distributor of Conservative talking points, I doubt he's been here.

And yet, to date in the 2008 campaign it's the Democrats who have exhibited the official "campaign" racism. Or at least, it's the Democrats who have spoken the words that the Obama people have labeled "racist." (e.g. see, Geraldine Ferraro) Go figure, huh?

Which does not refute my point that Conservatism and racism are not mutually exclusive.