I've posted this in its entirety so you can see how neocons argue their "points."

I say Obama did not say he pictured himself on money.

Ray says I did, and as proof quotes me as saying that his remark about not looking like Washington or Lincoln is playing a race card. Now find me one sentence anywhere not only in my posts, but in Obama's speeches, where he suggests his picture should be on money.

No, it's lies right in your face, and Ray's hope is that they are so loud, so arrogant, so distorted and so fraudulent that you'll buy the bombast. When a liberal says a dog is not an elephant, neocons accuse the liberal of saying dogs don't exist.

Neocon logic. Arrogant because they think you'll believe it, cynical because they know some people will believe it, evil because it is used to effect the kind of change that harms America.

YOU said Obama never alluded to himself being pictured on money. Only a brainless liberal could possible hear Barack Obama referring to how HE looks different that those other presidents pictured ON MONEY, and then come to the conclusion Obama wasn't making a reference to how he would look on money.

. o O (The more desperate he gets, the more pathetic this gets)

No, what's really pathetic is you, along with the "liberal media", making a mountain out of a molehill out one insignificant comment Obama made.

Now THAT is pathetic.

Hardly insignificant, Stone. The guys was making a rather blatant attempt to interject race into the race...Dax is parsing hairs. He is quite right that he did not claim Obama pictured himself on the money...Obama claimed they would tell people he did not look like the people on the money. We all know damn well what he meant.

How can one parse hairs, Law? A sentences can be 'parsed' or broken down into its constituent parts, as is done when a sentence is diagrammed, but how does one 'parse hairs?'

Race will be a part of this election, no matter what. I believe Obama, whether or not I vote for him, is simply acknowledging that and trying to 'beat' people 'to the punch.' I think McCain is playing everything he and his ad agency can come up with to 'play the race game.' And he's getting a lot of free news time doing so. So, who's going to win?

First of all, he can't be on money until he's dead, so it's useless to suggest he wanted to see himself on money, or he should be on money. Lots of Presidents will never be on money, although they'll all get a stamp sooner or later.

Second, to refute Lawmage's comment that "we all know damn well what he meant" -- no we don't.

I can give you three or four interpretations, none of which is, "I will sure look good on the dollar bill after I die."

I acknowledge that it's a race card played, but beyond that the exaggerated claim you project on Obama is specious at best, and, if I may take a leaf from your book, a lie at worst.

Sidebar: the only President to get on money about two seconds after he died was JFK. They've had that Kennedy half since 1964, and you still don't see many of them in circulation, although they minted millions of them. People must still think they're scarce or collecitble.

And now back to the topic at hand with the following post:

What claim would that be, Dax? In the opening post the claim I made was that Obama was playing the race card. You acknowledge that to be the case. I confess to some confusion as to which claim you are saying is specious...

And my response is, who the F cares. Big deal. He played the race card by saying he didn't look like the people on the dollar bill. This is an absolute non-issue that you're foaming over. It's incredibly pathetic.

An election in this country is a contest to get votes. These douche bag politicians of ours are going to pander to whoever they see fit. Would you be as offended if McCain was like, "hey, guys, I'm an old, white haired man, I can relate to all you other old white haired men."? I really don't give two shits if Obama makes an issue out of his blackness. It means absolutely nothing.

You're making an issue out of some stupid ass sentence that Obama said that really doesn't mean shit. So what. Get over it. Perhaps you should also make an issue of how pathetic John McCain is. His ad claimed that Obama was the biggest celebrity in the world. As if republicans never, ever elected celebrities. This is a run for votes and obviously Obama is doing a far better job of it than McCain is.

Again, a pathetic mountain out of a molehill.