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#277554 - 08/03/08 09:32 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Ray]
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Here ya go wonderboy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPARec32KMI

This ad was produced over a month ago... prior to any commentary regarding racism by Obama.


Edited by Chocolategenii (08/03/08 09:38 PM)
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#277555 - 08/03/08 09:42 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Chocolategenii]
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THAT is supposed to be "shamefully racist?" This is a joke, right?
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#277558 - 08/03/08 10:01 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Ray]
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Hey, if you can laugh at McCain's humor, I guess it is... More power to ya! whistle
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#277565 - 08/03/08 11:02 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Ray]
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a no-talent heiress who's based her celebrity upon being (or, at least pretending to be) an air-headed, ill-educated slut just can't get respect these days.


Of course she can't get any respect -- she's a Republican who gave a lot of money to John McCain. What an idiot.
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#277567 - 08/03/08 11:09 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Helice]
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McCain might not be racist. That doesn't mean he isn't running a racist campaign. Hillary Clinton almost surely isn't racist, but she ran a racist campaign in the primary, and that's part of the reason she lost ... but that was among Democrats. For that matter, George Wallace wasn't much of a racist personally and when he first ran for office he advocated civil rights... and he lost, and decided to make his political career as a segregationist. McCain is running a racist campaign now. It doesn't make him a racist, but it does make him a demagogue.
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#277570 - 08/03/08 11:35 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Chocolategenii]
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Originally by: Chocolategenii
McCain might not be racist. That doesn't mean he isn't running a racist campaign.

Do you have any evidence of that, besides a video which you seem to be running from as fast as possible?

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Hillary Clinton almost surely isn't racist, but she ran a racist campaign in the primary, and that's part of the reason she lost ... but that was among Democrats.

Precisely. THAT was Democrats.

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McCain is running a racist campaign now.

Your examples, I'm sure, will be enlightening.
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#277599 - 08/04/08 02:50 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Ray]
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Let's see...here are a few racial remarks by McCain.

Sen. John McCain , "I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." ...said during his 2000 Presidental bid. When given the opportunity, he failed to distinguish between those gooks that tortured him, and those gooks in the general population.

Here is another one of his "jokes". I hope you "get" the humor, as I sure in the heck do not:

"Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, 'Where is that marvelous ape?'" -
-a joke McCain reportedly told during his first Senate race in 1986

"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." -to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter. Perhaps he was "playfully" calling his wife the "C" word...I'll give him that. I must agree with Nancy Reagan, dumping his first wife (who was crippled at the time) for Cindy...marrying Cindy before the ink on his divorce papers were dry...was unforgivable. As a result, Nancy and her son Ronnie only endorse McCain because of their allegiance to the Republican party.

So, NO, I do not "get" the humor behind paring two dysfunctional Hollywood starlets with Obama...to make the point, by comparison - Obama is also dysfunctional. I don't get that. While it can be said Paris made her own bed, Brittany Spears did not... Her only dysfunctional behavior is the result of obvious mental illness. So let's laugh at her, ok. Let's laugh at the metnally ill. Let's laugh at the handicapped...John McCain style!

Obama's defense of what "he preceives" to be a racist ad...is his business! Shame him if you want...but not without taking a real close look at his perpetrator's history.
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#277600 - 08/04/08 02:53 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Chocolategenii]
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Chocolategenii: I must agree with Nancy Reagan, dumping his first wife (who was crippled at the time) for Cindy...marrying Cindy before the ink on his divorce papers were dry...was unforgivable.

Nancy Davis Reagan, for whom Ronald Reagan divorced Jane Wyman, that Nancy Reagan?

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#277603 - 08/04/08 03:01 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Dax]
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Yeah, THAT Nancy Reagan who married "Ronnie" before the ink was dry.

McCain's divorce to Carol was granted April 2, 1980. He wed Cindy March 1980.
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#277610 - 08/04/08 03:28 PM Re: Obama Deals The Race Card [Re: Chocolategenii]
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Originally by: Chocolategenii
Let's see...here are a few racial remarks by McCain.

Sen. John McCain , "I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." ...said during his 2000 Presidental bid. When given the opportunity, he failed to distinguish between those gooks that tortured him, and those gooks in the general population.

Here is another one of his "jokes". I hope you "get" the humor, as I sure in the heck do not:

"Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, 'Where is that marvelous ape?'" -
-a joke McCain reportedly told during his first Senate race in 1986

"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." -to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter. Perhaps he was "playfully" calling his wife the "C" word...I'll give him that. I must agree with Nancy Reagan, dumping his first wife (who was crippled at the time) for Cindy...marrying Cindy before the ink on his divorce papers were dry...was unforgivable. As a result, Nancy and her son Ronnie only endorse McCain because of their allegiance to the Republican party.

So, NO, I do not "get" the humor behind paring two dysfunctional Hollywood starlets with Obama...to make the point, by comparison - Obama is also dysfunctional. I don't get that. While it can be said Paris made her own bed, Brittany Spears did not... Her only dysfunctional behavior is the result of obvious mental illness. So let's laugh at her, ok. Let's laugh at the metnally ill. Let's laugh at the handicapped...John McCain style!

Obama's defense of what "he preceives" to be a racist ad...is his business! Shame him if you want...but not without taking a real close look at his perpetrator's history.

. o O (Ordinarily, I wouldn't feel obliged to quote the whole tirade, but I shouldn't want to be accused of cherry picking quotes)

Now, Chocolatethinker, if you please, could get get back to my request and provide an example or two of the racist ads being run by the McCain campaign. Remember? THAT'S what you said he was running. You never said anything about any race-tinged references he might have made 20+ years ago about the people who held him captive and tortured him for years. YOU were talking about the current 2008 president campaign. Try to focus.
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