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#276865 - 07/28/08 01:46 PM Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ).
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Yesterday a man went inside a church to just start shooting people up like it's going out of style, all because he blamed liberal and gays for his own inability to find a job.

My guess is he's a conservative (Which doesn't really matter when it comes to live and death ), but this idiot lives up to the stereotype of the redneck with a gun who has to direct his anger and own incompetence on someone else to justify taking peoples lifes in all places a church.

Anyone I feel who can justify this type of animal in the name of being conservative or anything else, ought to get the needle like this man will.

I also blame networks like fox who spew this partisan bullshit to uneducated yahoo's like this one, and inspire them to shoot up anything or anyone who does'nt go with this conservative (another word for retarded) crap that these networks feed them.

This is just my oppinion on this, let me know what the rest of you think.

P.S. Check out the story for yourself : http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20080728/NEWS-TENNESSEE-SHOOTING-DC/


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#276869 - 07/28/08 02:11 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Sleek Phantom Mystic]
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Originally by: Sleek Phantom Mystic
This is just my opinion on this, let me know what the rest of you think.

I think you're the epitome of social grace and erudition, just like your ideological comrades. I tip my hat to you.
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#276875 - 07/28/08 02:34 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Sleek Phantom Mystic]
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Another victim of neo-cons' policies, has been tolerance; sick bastards like this low-life in Tennessee, will actually be looked upon as a "hero" by some for standing up against gays......akin to those that blow up abortion clinics.
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#276886 - 07/28/08 04:51 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Sleek Phantom Mystic]
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This man was unemployed, had been on food stamps (but the state was planning to reduce or stop those).... and among other things, he had previously threatened extreme violence against his (now ex) spouse, telling her he would blow her brains out and his own as well. Sounds more like an angry mentally unstable individual who for whatever reason or reasons could not hold down a job for very long. I'd say he was more of a neo-criminal than a neo-conservative.

Personally, I doubt he was an actual political conservative. I don't know of many conservatives who are chronically unemployed and on food stamps. Maybe there are a few out there. It's possible I suppose. I do agree that unstable low intelligence people like him might be influenced by the talking heads on Fox and elsewhere who tend to blame everything that's wrong in America and the world on the evil pinko liberal conspiracy.

I posted his photo below. The recent pic was provided by the Knoxville Police Dept. I assume it was taken while he was in custody. I don't see anything that slightly resembles remorse in his face and eyes. Do you? On the contrary, he seems to actually be proud of what he's done, as if to say, I guess I showed those gay-loving equal rights anti-war liberals a thing or two.

Notice he did not bother to take his own life with that 12 gauge he was carrying. He was tackled when he stopped to reload, but if he had wanted to kill himself, he could have brought along his .38 cal. handgun and used it to shoot himself in the head. I take that to mean he's also a coward along with being a freeloader and too stupid and or deranged to hold down a job. Watch for the guy's lawyer to try and enter an insanity plea on his client's behalf. Maybe he will be able to show that watching too much Fox News pushed the guy over the line. The Fox-Hannity-Limbaugh-Savage Defense. Hmmmmmm, I like it.


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#276894 - 07/28/08 05:48 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Sleek Phantom Mystic]
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And Sleek called the kettle black.

He's from Tennessee, so he must be a redneck. And rednecks with guns must be dangerous lunatics who shoot up churches. Wow. Talk about stereotyping.

He doesn't like gays, so he must be a conservative. The gays of the world who hold conservative views want to hear more from your oh so open mind. The conservatives who are not anti-gay may also be interested.

FOX? Are you serious? Have you seen their programming? Family Guy and American Dad both constantly poke fun at not only gays but the perceived notion you have about the people who you perceive to have the notions you perceive FOX to be promoting. Those shows and MADtv poke major fun at the very kind of thinking you think they promote.

Jim Adkisson is an angry little man who decided to blame someone other than himself for his own problems. If he had waited a day or two, he may have been shooting up flower shop because the house across the street form the last place he applied for a job at had pink flamingos in the yard.
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#276895 - 07/28/08 05:51 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Chocolategenii]
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What? Hold on.

Ray, are you wearing a t-shirt that says "Free Jim"?
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#276908 - 07/28/08 07:40 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Aint]
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I blame global warming.
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#276917 - 07/28/08 09:11 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Aint]
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Originally by: Aint
What? Hold on.

Ray, are you wearing a t-shirt that says "Free Jim"?


You are addressing me, why? I was answering Sleek's original post. While on the topic, Ray is one of those tolerant compassionate conservatives... wink
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#276934 - 07/28/08 11:50 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: WakeHolden]
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Mentally unstable people, as this guy clearly is, can grasp at anything and use it as motivation for their intentions. The political excuse he used means nothing as he likely is unable to comprehend much outside of the insanity in his own head. He is just another nutcase.
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#276936 - 07/29/08 12:22 AM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: jokul]
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How much ya wanna bet he's an ex-marine?
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#276978 - 07/29/08 12:16 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: WakeHolden]
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wake holden: Watch for the guy's lawyer to try and enter an insanity plea on his client's behalf. Maybe he will be able to show that watching too much Fox News pushed the guy over the line. The Fox-Hannity-Limbaugh-Savage Defense. Hmmmmmm, I like it.

This is gonna be a rough one for a Tennessee jury.

AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES: He intentionally shot up a church full of young people who were performing a play. He threatened violence against his ex wife.

MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES: He hates liberals and gays.

He might get convicted in New York, but in Tennessee I say he walks.

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#276982 - 07/29/08 12:28 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Dax]
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Originally by: Dax
AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES: He intentionally shot up a church full of young people who were performing a play. He threatened violence against his ex wife.

MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES: He hates liberals and gays.

He might get convicted in New York, but in Tennessee I say he walks.

But on the other hand:

AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES: He intentionally shot up a Marine recruiting station full of R.O.T.C. students who were asking about enlistment options. He threatened violence against the President.

MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES: He's liberal and gay.

He might get convicted in New York, but in Berkeley they would dedicate statues and declare a holiday in his honor.
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#276984 - 07/29/08 12:33 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Ray]
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Not responsive to anything. You really do have to stop.

I'm serious. You have to deal with the issues presented. We aren't discussing what some liberal gay guy did, we are talking about this guy in Tennessee and I will not stand for your attempts to obfuscate issues.

Don't make me say this again.


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#276990 - 07/29/08 12:43 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Dax]
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Originally by: Dax
We aren't discussing what some liberal gay guy did, we are talking about this guy in Tennessee and I will not stand for your attempts to obfuscate issues.

Now who's obfuscating? YOU weren't talking about what some guy in Tennessee did. YOU were talking about how bigoted, backwards, and homophobic people in Tennessee are, in the eyes of Northern liberals.

Originally by: Dax
Don't make me say this again.

. o O (What doofus!)
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#276994 - 07/29/08 01:31 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Ray]
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Bullshit, Dax! How about you stop? You chatise Ray's post as being unresponsive but it was in fact perfectly responsive to your post:
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This is gonna be a rough one for a Tennessee jury.

AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES: He intentionally shot up a church full of young people who were performing a play. He threatened violence against his ex wife.

MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES: He hates liberals and gays.

He might get convicted in New York, but in Tennessee I say he walks.


Your post was devoid of any relevant content and amounted to nothing more than a blatant and transparent attempt to smear the people of Tennessee who you suggest will let the guy walk. Its typical of the leftist elitist bullshit that more and more frequently decorates these boards and masquerades as insightful discussion. Your effort to chastise Ray when he throws it back in your face, as he did, is just a further demonstration of the drift to the left here. When is the top banner going to change to "Fool Moon, all opinions welcome so long as they are Leftist ones."
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#277040 - 07/29/08 09:04 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Ray]
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Ray did you say this guy is one of your relatives? LMAO!

Back to the subject though, is that all you can say? Some partisan b.s. that does'nt hide the fact that a mad man shot up a church because he HATES Liberals and Gays.

Tell that to his victims Ray, see what they would say to you, and I bet the word Jack Ass would be included in the vocabulary.
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#277041 - 07/29/08 09:05 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Aint]
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Aint tell that to the victims families, I'm sure they would disagree with you.
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#277049 - 07/29/08 09:54 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Sleek Phantom Mystic]
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You want me to tell a bunch of church folks from Tennessee that I don't believe they are all redneck gun toting homicidal maniacs? No problem.
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#277054 - 07/29/08 10:11 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Aint]
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Originally by: Aint
You want me to tell a bunch of church folks from Tennessee that I don't believe they are all redneck gun toting homicidal maniacs? No problem.

Ahhh now, sheeeeeit, Aint. Y'all know that ain't true. Everyone knows that folks in Tennessee is jest a bunch o' angry, depressed losers who only cling to their guns and their religion 'cause they aint got 'nuff courage or the brains not to live in small towns. At least that's what a prominent national politician taught me. Remember to vote Democratic November 4...Y'ALL!
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#277066 - 07/29/08 11:01 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Ray]
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Everyone knows that folks in Tennessee... At least that's what a prominent national politician taught me.


By any chance, did he drive around in a red farm truck?
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#277068 - 07/29/08 11:05 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Chocolategenii]
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CG: Another victim of neo-cons' policies, has been tolerance; sick bastards like this low-life in Tennessee, will actually be looked upon as a "hero" by some for standing up against gays......akin to those that blow up abortion clinics.


Qué?
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#277070 - 07/29/08 11:33 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Aint]
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Aint wrote:
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Qué?


He's probably a big supporter of the death penalty who ridicules liberals for opposing it. Does Tennessee have it?

He may now be facing the very punishment he so fervently supports.
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#277108 - 07/30/08 12:19 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Aint]
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Did I say all people from Tennessee were rednecks? No I did'nt, though you're trying to make it that way.

I just said this idiot lived up to this stereotype of the gun toting,whiskey drinking,woman beating,gay and liberal hating , sheep molesting redneck, do you deny that?

The people as well as the state of Tennessee are beautiful , you just have a few people that are lost souls and don't know how to relate to the world we now live in.
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#277121 - 07/30/08 02:43 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: WakeHolden]
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Originally by: WakeHolden
Personally, I doubt he was an actual political conservative. I don't know of many conservatives who are chronically unemployed and on food stamps.


Tulare and Merced Counties in Cali have high rates of chronically unemployed. Over 30% of children living at the poverty level are not provided school lunch funds... These poor folks, some of the very poorest in the USA are mostly Republican. There is very little violence among them...but only hard working souls with jobs that pay very little (when there is a job).
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#277144 - 07/30/08 06:44 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Chocolategenii]
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Wow...Now he is a sheep molester...SPM, you are a profoundly ignorant individual.
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#277148 - 07/30/08 07:56 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Lawmage]
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I take that as a compliment,lol.

But seriously, I admit I might have went to far with the sheep molesting comment, but I'm tired of people making excuses and trying to deflect the blame when it should be placed squarely in their lap, and I place the blame on this Republican,Neocon,Christian fundametalist movement which has controled our nation for the past eight years. They made it possible for this idiot to think he was justified in shooting up innocent people in a church of all places.

I'm tired LM of all of this nonsense, and it's time for us as a nation to leave this insanity behind.


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#277158 - 07/30/08 09:23 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Sleek Phantom Mystic]
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On thing the far left have in common. They weep and wail about placing blame where it belongs whenever anything bad happens, THEN proceed to blame everyone and everything EXCEPT the one who's actually guilty.

I recall following 9/11 the Blame American First crowd went to great lengths to blame everyone except the 19 jokers who actually flew the planes into the building. Now we have another lefty who wants to cast blame upon all his political and sociological enemies, everyone except the guy who actually pulled the trigger.

It's all so pathetic. Typical, but pathetic all the same.
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#277191 - 07/31/08 05:32 AM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Ray]
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They weep and wail about placing blame where it belongs whenever anything bad happens, THEN proceed to blame everyone and everything EXCEPT the one who's actually guilty.

That actually sounds like the right when one of their golden calves is under threat.

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I recall following 9/11 the Blame American First crowd went to great lengths to blame everyone except the 19 jokers who actually flew the planes into the building.


The reasons for that event are many and complex, if one wanted to give a well rounded answer, and vast majority of the blame lies with with the "19 jokers" and none with Saddam who Bush wanted to pin the blame on. Who is this "Blame American First" crowd?


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Now we have another lefty who wants to cast blame upon all his political and sociological enemies, everyone except the guy who actually pulled the trigger.


The guy might be a political conservative of some type, at least according to his ravings, but his ideology is totally secondary to the fairly obvious fact that the guy has some serious mental illness problems.
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#277207 - 07/31/08 10:11 AM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Ray]
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Ray: I recall following 9/11 the Blame American First crowd went to great lengths to blame everyone except the 19 jokers who actually flew the planes into the building.

I recall that very well. One of the loudest of the Blame America First crowd was Jerry Falwell, who blamed 9/11 on the gays, the feminists, the ACLU and for all I know The New York Times.

And I agree with you that Falwell was incorrect in doing so, leaping as he did to such a liberal conclusion.

You hypocrite.

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#277214 - 07/31/08 10:38 AM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Dax]
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You hypocrite.

The ability of the political left to engage in name-calling is exceeded only by their penchant for sniveling about how someone else is calling them names.
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#277237 - 07/31/08 01:18 PM Re: Political Idiot Gone too far ( The Tennesseee Shooting ). [Re: Ray]
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Originally by: Ray
On thing the far left have in common. They weep and wail ....


I'm not certain whether those injured and killed at the Unitarian Church were far left by your standards...but they did hold liberal views. The only thing they are weeping about are their injuries and their loved ones lost. Had they been members of Jerry Falwell's Church, they would be safe.
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