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#276867 - 07/28/08 02:01 PM
Re: Obama's German Field Trip
[Re: Sleek Phantom Mystic]
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Registered: 10/03/06
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CG, don't let Ol Ray, get to you. Ray knows the time is coming for Obama to win, but was so bad, that the people will not choose a Republican this year, and he might have ruined the Republicans for years to come (Hopefully). . Thank you Sleek!  You gotta love Ray! I was watching some conservative pundit over the week end... I think it was Laura Ingrams...(I can't remember...I was only listening to the program). She went on and on about Obama's lack of knowledge of Nazi controlled Germany! For conservatives like Coulter, Ingrams, Rush...(those who Ray associates himself with) it is important for Obama to know the difference between Nazi-controlled Germany and Nazi-controlled Poland, neither of which currently exist. However, it is not important for McCain to know the difference between Iran and Iraq, both of which currently exist. Do I have their hypocrisy correct?
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#276915 - 07/28/08 09:10 PM
Re: Obama's German Field Trip
[Re: Dax]
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Registered: 11/19/01
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Thanks Dax when I said that Most people outside America are not Obama supporters."
I was simply saying that while we prefer Obama to Bush and Mc Cann, few of us would vote for any current canidate for the American President. Obama like most Americans support no real gun control and capital punishment both of which most non Americans do not accept. Even Obama heath care policy is far short of the universal medical care schemes in most other developed countries. We are not trying to impose our values on you. All we are saying it would be better that you move a little in our direction by voting for a Democrat. We will still fight you on these and other issues but at least there will be more understanding and some interest in issues like Climate Change which is our main issue here. I have not heard anything about it from any candidates but I suspect the Democrats policy is closer to ours. Here we need co-operation.
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#276933 - 07/28/08 11:23 PM
Re: Obama's German Field Trip
[Re: Lawmage]
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Registered: 01/07/03
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I wonder if you will similarly concede the hypocritical nature of the likes of Franken and Olberman? Actually, it's a far lot harder to find examples of hypocrisy revolving around the likes of Franken and Olbermann than it is, say, someone like Rush(who's fact checking over the years has been stunningly horrendous) and Laura Ingram. Rush flat out lies when it comes to presenting his arguments. Evidence of this is everywhere you search. About the only example of Franken hypocrisy one can turn up is how his corporation got fined $25k for a workman's comp issue in Minnesota. Even in that instance, I'm not sure one can carry a good case for hypocrisy in that the company admitted they were wrong in the situation and paid their dues. I listen to conservative radio nearly every day I'm in the car. Boston has a great conservative FM talk radio station which carries Jay Severin in the afternoons and I highly recommend it(you can stream it at wtkk.com). This is conservative talk that I can at least respect, something that people would be hard pressed to say about someone like Rush or Ingrim. While I disagree with the guy more than anything, he makes great points critiquing both the republicans and democrats(more dem's than anything) and his show doesn't revolve around the sensationalist bullshit that people like Rush and Laura Ingrim excels at.
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