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#277447 - 08/02/08 01:44 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Dax]
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Okay, please tell me where his specific accusations are correct. You assume they are ture, Dax, obviously you must have some concrete evidence in support of that assumption. Or...are you just so eager to see the worst in everyone and everything American?
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#277453 - 08/02/08 02:34 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Lawmage]
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I'm eager to see you refute my position with facts.

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#277487 - 08/03/08 04:32 AM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Dax]
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It would seem that Seymour Hersh is difficult to either prove or disprove. As an investigative reporter, he seems to have inside information about things similar to Woodward and Bernstein's Deep Throat during Watergate. In that sense, Law is correct. However, to disregard what he says because of this might be very foolish.
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#277509 - 08/03/08 12:46 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: lizbeth]
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A current article may be unprovable at the time because of anonymous sources, etc. but there is no evidence to show that any of his past investigative pieces were false in any way.

The passage of time has proved him right, not wrong.

The messenger, while not immune to attack, is not very vulnerable to it.

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#277527 - 08/03/08 04:28 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: wanderingspryte]
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This isn't news; this happens on a regular basis it is their way of keeping law and order. Unfortunately this is probably not used due to democratic vote, but more as voted in by the leaders to support a climate of fear and give some empowerment to the men that work for their country.

This sort of thing just highlights who is running most of the middle east and why. Unfortunately I think it's impossible to fix without a lot of time and good management; I really dont think taking it over and bombing it to kingdom come will really help promote our "ideal world" view over there.

Originally by: wanderingspryte
Well, Law.. there have already been documented cases of Honor Killings in the US and Canada. But please don't be just alarmed for Islamic women.. stats are equally alarming all over the world.. just here in the US..

MURDER. Every day four women die in this country as a result of domestic violence, the euphemism for murders and assaults by husbands and boyfriends. That's approximately 1,400 women a year, according to the FBI. The number of women who have been murdered by their intimate partners is greater than the number of soldiers killed in the Vietnam War.

BATTERING. Although only 572,000 reports of assault by intimates are officially reported to federal officials each year, the most conservative estimates indicate two to four million women of all races and classes are battered each year. At least 170,000 of those violent incidents are serious enough to require hospitalization, emergency room care or a doctor's attention.

SEXUAL ASSAULT. Every year approximately 132,000 women report that they have been victims of rape or attempted rape, and more than half of them knew their attackers. It's estimated that two to six times that many women are raped, but do not report it. Every year 1.2 million women are forcibly raped by their current or former male partners, some more than once.

I get the point that many of these victims are not then killed, as are those under Sharia Law, yet.. Justice Dept stats are dismal when it comes to seeking justice for the crimes against women. ...

it's dicey business being a woman.
And what makes you think it doesnt happen over there too to a greater or equal degree? :S

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