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#277359 - 08/01/08 12:17 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Ray]
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Again, you have not attacked the facts alleged, but the messenger. Please comment on the statement I made, and show why it's wrong.

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#277363 - 08/01/08 12:27 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Dax]
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Again, you have not attacked the facts alleged, but the messenger. Please comment on the statement I made, and show why it's wrong.

Ooooo! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Yet one more marvelous quote to dredge up the next time you start talking about Adam's apples or oxycontin or "fair & balanced." What a guy!
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#277364 - 08/01/08 12:32 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Ray]
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Please comment on the statement I made and show why it's wrong.

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#277365 - 08/01/08 01:28 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Dax]
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It's okay, Dax. I spoke to the home; he goes tomorrow.
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#277392 - 08/01/08 08:01 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Helice]
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Wait a second...How exactly should we respond to patent absurdities? Herch makes all sorts of allegations with anonymous sources...How are we supposed to "attack the facts alleged" when they are akin to saying little green men from Mars have cloned all of humanity and rule the world in secret? Some times it is sufficent to say the guy has consistently been full of shit, he is making another absurd allegation, and its rather likely he is still full of shit.
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#277406 - 08/01/08 10:39 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Dax]
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Originally by: Dax
As far as countries whose choice of capital punishment is stoning, I suggest that when the US takes advice from other countries about our own system of execution, we will be in a position to dole out advice to other countries on theirs.

In this country, before you can be convicted of a crime worthy of capital punishment you have to endure an often times excruciatingly long legal process that ends with a jury of your peers determining your fate after two highly educated individuals battle over the conviction through the details of the case and the law. Even after you get sentenced to death you likely will have many opprotunities to make appeals or even be exonerated based on later discoveries in your case while you sit on death row for 10-15 years if not more.

None of these things have been available to the accused in this situation and making the comparison between lethal injection and being stoned to death in terms of civility is (and not to be rude) somewhat ridiculous.

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#277408 - 08/01/08 10:59 PM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Lawmage]
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Originally by: Lawmage
Wait a second...How exactly should we respond to patent absurdities? Herch makes all sorts of allegations with anonymous sources...How are we supposed to "attack the facts alleged" when they are akin to saying little green men from Mars have cloned all of humanity and rule the world in secret? Some times it is sufficent to say the guy has consistently been full of shit, he is making another absurd allegation, and its rather likely he is still full of shit.

If you will demonstrate Hersh (Hirsch, Hirsh, Hersch, I always screw up that spelling) has been factually wrong in many cases, or in any case, for that matter, and that what he wrote has been shown to be untrue, I'll wait here for your answer. Otherwise, I'll be at the bar.

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#277413 - 08/02/08 01:09 AM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Dax]
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Maybe Lawmage should learn how to respond to his own 'patent absurdities,' first. He could then go on to attack McCain's campaign ads and Limbaugh's erroneous statements. But wait, he can't do that, can he? He can only attack Obama.
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#277423 - 08/02/08 08:04 AM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: lizbeth]
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Similar to the maner in which you continuously attack our men and women in uniform, Liz...
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#277433 - 08/02/08 10:38 AM Re: More Stoning Deaths In Middle East [Re: Lawmage]
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I'm still at the bar, running up a tab. I need an answer before I go into debt.

Please tell me where Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh (I looked it up) is factually incorrect in his current reporting.

Or any of his reporting, for that matter. Print the lies. I'll read, I'll listen.

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