David Icke cannot be too famous: you can't spell his name and I had to look him up in Wiki! Reptilian leaders??? On second thought, maybe does know something.

BB you win the pole position in the spelling bee... I honestly do not think there is some "grand" conspiracy by members (unknown?) of Skull and Crossbones, et al. that want to control the world oil production and the world...lol! The WWO falls into the same category as the NAU which is a known "urban legend"...along with that highway from South Mexico to the center of Canada!

Personally, I think we loose our perspective of the world when we fall into these traps. They distract us from "reality".

I can understand that, when you say WWO, you may mean the World Trade Organization or WTO--but what does NAU stand for? The North American Union?

And, if it's an urban legend, what does it have to do with anything.

PS: It's the Skull and Bone Society--a fraternity of scions of successful families who use a fraternity the same way every fraternity or sorority does--to establish contacts that might 'help' them in the furure

From the GHW Bush speech posted by lizbeth:
...."Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -- a new world order -- can emerge: a new era -- freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace.....

What were the first four objecttives and who's objectives were they?

It's made by Foster's, arguably the worst beer in a country usually known for excellent beer.


And all of them are pie in the sky sloganeering statements. Like "the war on terror" it allows those who employ it to mean anything they want it to mean.

However, if what people are looking for is truly a "new world order" it would have to be a world where the US is not the leader of the free world. THAT would truly be a new world order, and something most Americans probably don't want, no matter how high the price of gas goes.

However if one is a neocon, for example, and Mexico says "Let us take over, we'll lower your taxes then I have a feeling there are some of us who'd have their personal assistants start teaching them Spanish


That would be nice, in which case the phrase itself becomes useless and meaningless. New World Order doesn't impose itself. It demands conquest.


Reagan, for all my criticism of his presidency, actually did try to approach that goal. He failed, but not because of poor leadership. However, "shining city on a hill" is just an empty, emotional phrase like "morning in America." Meaningless.


Yes of course. Either that or a Bush monarchy. What did you think it meant, equality and freedom? Your liberties are being eroded on a daily basis via The Administration and a chickenshit Congress. Do you see much equality and freedom in this country today? We are still the country with the most freedoms on earth, but without our vigilance, which I don't see much of, that's gonna change.

115 days til the election.

Gosh! I'm so flattered. Usually the lefties make up quotes out of whole cloth and attribute them to, you know, the president and other high government officials. I must be traveling in rarefied circles these days, aren't I?

(puts on his best Sybil Fawlty voice) Oh I know, I KNOW! Just like "Change We Can Believe In." A bunch of nonsensical claptrap which, of late, could be rewriten: "Change of Position We Can Believe Is Politics As Usual."

Absolutely.

Did you think I was being partisan?

An empty phrase is an empty phrase, why can't you neocons see that? What is it about you that demands an eye for an eye even when people aren't disagreeing with you?

If a liberal told you the traffic light was red, you'd drive through it assuming it was green, even if you saw that it was red. That's how you boys argue.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

We have been learned by a leftist controlled congress that red is green and wrong is right.

I know it is an election year, but can we try to keep Democrat vs Republican squabbling to a minimum please? Thanks - JackD

I meant NWO.

I can't get too excited about this New World Order speculation. I think it is a good catch phrase, a sound bite that is over used. I seriously doubt there is a mastermind puppeteer pulling the strings of all the politicians - globally!

My personal opinion, is the NWO is not a secret masterplan for the future of the globe. It is as real as some hidden meaning in masonic handshakes and illuminati symbols.