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#274535 - 07/05/08 04:55 PM Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body!
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I was sent a note home from my daughters school late last year which asked for me to sign a form which asked me if I agreed for my daughter to get sex education.All I can say is that I do not even know were the note is today,but I will say that my daughter is not going have her mind corrupted at age 4.

This has been in the news since Friday.I have told my wife that this is the issue that I feel strongly about,and I will join any pressure group that wants to stop the Satanists from corrupting our children.I wonder if there are any more concerned parents out there that thinks like I do?


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#274556 - 07/05/08 10:47 PM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: cassielA]
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Satanists?
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#274563 - 07/05/08 11:48 PM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: cassielA]
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I agree with you cassielA in that sex education for 4 year old children sounds pretty stupid. Offensively stupid in fact. I trust they allow you to option out of such a class. I would never allow a school to teach such things to my 4 year old. I have to wonder about any who thinks this is a good idea.
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#274564 - 07/06/08 02:53 AM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: jokul]
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I agree that teaching the mechanics of sexual intercourse to 4 year old children would be a mistake, but I'm guessing that "sex education" as it applies to this age group would cover things like "How are boys and girls different?" and "How to clean up properly after using the restroom" and "What to do if someone tries to touch you in a private place" and "How to ask for help if someone has been bothering you", and things of that nature. I doubt strongly that the children would be taught anything about actual sex, don't you?

We were all 4 and 5 year old children once. I don't know about all of you, but I have some very clear memories from that part of my life, and one of them is that when I went to kindergarten, every available space on the sidewalk and lower outside cement walls was covered with graffiti drawn by little boys. What did they draw over and over and over again? The little 5 year old boys drew crude cartoons of an enormous penis and two testicles. The little boys were not only proud of their little willies, they were obsessed with them, and took every opportunity they could to talk about them, draw them, joke about them, and show them off if they could without getting caught.

Do the gentlemen here who read this have memories of similar behavior from that age? You needn't be embarrassed, children are born without manners, it isn't their fault. smile

There was not a single male or female child in my kindergarten class who did not receive this peer-level "sex education", and we were all quite well acquainted with the construction and appearance of the male private parts, thanks to our little male playmates.

Seeing as how at age 5 penises and testicles were no big news to my crowd, I rather think I and my little peers could have benefitted from adult insights and explanations, instead of being introduced to the entire subject of sex, gender, and genitalia by other witless 5 year olds.

In elementary school, a little boy who was angry at me got all red-faced and shouted that he was going to kick me in the balls. A couple of his friends tapped him on the shoulder and whispered in his ear for a moment. After thinking with furrowed brow for a second or two, he came back with "I forgot, girls don't have balls. But I'll kick you in the tits!"

Ah, those precious, innocent school days! wink If my little nemesis had taken a sex ed class designed for his age group, he might have known that "girls don't have balls", and spared himself some embarrassment.

They shouldn't have called it "Sex Education" because people imagine their children are precious and pure little snowflakes that shouldn't be told they have any private parts until they're 21. They spaz out. It should have been called "Intro to Health" or some such thing that wouldn't frighten parents who are terrified of sex.
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#274578 - 07/06/08 06:28 AM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: Helice]
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And I always thought that that graffitti meant, "Killroy was here!" I'm either very stupid or very naive, or both.
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#274599 - 07/06/08 02:41 PM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: Helice]
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I agree the name of the class may be the worst part of it all. Most can't help but be bothered by the name. It definately sounds like they want to teach about sex things. I doubt they teach about how to use a condom or show Debbie Does Dallas videos but the name makes my mind consider that possibility.

I don't recall any penis related artwork from the Picasso wannabes or stuff like that but it may have happened. I know in the 4th grade I looked at my brother's stash of magazines. I can't imagine a teacher talking about sex though. It was a giggle subject.
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#274615 - 07/06/08 06:09 PM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: jokul]
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Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: UK
Personally I agree that the class may have been mis-named. But in order to put your mind at rest call the school and either ask for a face to face meeting with a teacher or the head, or for an explanatory note setting out EXACTLY what will be taught.

I am with Helice and assume that it will be personal safety and maybe parts of the body...it is difficult for children to deal with the different names people call parts of their body so being taught the "correct" names demistifies this for them.

Cant you tell I have just been on a course covering what we call in the UK 'Personal, Health, Social Education' which covers all the sorts of things that kids need and want to know grin
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#274638 - 07/07/08 05:34 AM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: madhousekeeper]
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Registered: 02/26/02
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It definately seems like a potentially good idea going sour because of idiots giving it the wrong name. That said, it would be a case where you'd have to make sure you get hold of the cirriculum and find out exactly what they are going to be teaching. For all we know it might be a case of stupid people trying to do the right thing, but in an inappropriate fashion.

Oh...and "Satanists"? Please.
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#274653 - 07/07/08 10:13 AM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: jackdiddley]
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Sure, ban prayer and add sex!

Ask yourself which is more important for a human being to understand, sex or prayer.

And if you don't say "prayer" you are, of course, damned to the eternal lake of fire where your flesh will blister off your bones on a daily basis for eternity.

I myself have a perfectly fulfilled and happy prayer life. But what you people want is to teach how to have sex with these four year olds right in the school! That's what goes on in those "hygiene" and "sex education" classes you can bet. You are an abomination in God's eyes. Just because there is no mention of sex with children in the Bible doesn't mean God wants you to have sex with a child. If you are not married, God does not want you to have sex with anyone, including yourself.

So be a true Christian and teach prayer, or suffer eternal torment while I laugh at you because I am more compassionate and a much better and more moral person than you.

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#274838 - 07/09/08 08:51 AM Re: Sex Education for My 4-Year-Old? Over My Dead Body! [Re: Dax]
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Registered: 06/12/03
Loc: East Sussex
As a parent with a child starting primary/elementary school in September, I think thatif Jake came home with a similar letter, then I would not be too concerned. I would, however, want to know what they would actually be teaching. Realistucally, I cannot imagine sex-ed for 4 year olds is going to be too in depth. I am also of the mind that, if you teach a child young enough, then it seems normal to them and not a "giggle" subject or anything worse, but merely a fact of life, like eating, sleeping and going to the toilet.

Preaching religion in schools has the potential to be far more corrupting than teaching the facts of life.
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