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#274214 - 07/02/08 05:54 PM
Helmet Laws
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Registered: 02/25/04
Loc: Deep In It
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Should motorcyclists be required by law to wear a helmet while operating a motorcycle?
Before I rode a motorcycle, my opinion was no. That opinion has not changed now that I do ride a motorcycle. However, I do wear a helmet. It is my personal preference to do so and I'll tell you why.
Helmets save lives.
People who don't wear helmets offer up several flimsy excuses.
It will limit my field of vision and that's less safe than not wearing a helmet. I wear a 3/4 modular helmet. It covers my entire head and face. The front 'jaw' flips up and so does the visor. With the jaw and visor both down, I have no problem seeing. If the visor gets dirty or scratched, flip it up until you can clean or replace it. Many helmets have replaceable visors.
I can't hear with a helmet on. A 3/4 or full face helmet does block some sound. All 3/4 modulars can be flipped up and most full faces have flip up visors. With the front up, more sound gets through. Helmets with less coverage, skid lids, don't cover your ears at all. Even a skid lid is safer than no lid. Besides, a helmet does not make one deaf. Most of the sound it blocks out is the sound of the rider plowing through the air. Many riders say that having that sound cut down allows them to better hear important sounds; like horns, squalling tires and their own bike.
My glasses don't fit with a helmet on. I wear glasses. In the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course, we wore 3/4 open face helmets. Helmets were mandatory in The Course. Most of us wore glasses, both prescription and sun glasses, with no problem. I did find that wearing glasses with a fixed jaw full face helmet was very difficult. With my modular, it is no problem. No problem at all.
Helmets hurt my head/neck. You are wearing the wrong helmet. It does not fit you correctly. Most commonly this complaint comes from wearing a helmet that is too small. A helmet should fit snug. There should be firm, gentile pressure on your head and not much sliding around. It should not squeeze your head like a python is trying to kill you. The more of your face a helmet covers is the more pressure you will feel. The less of your face it covers is the more of the road you will feel if you go sliding across it on your face. Don't worry. The pain stops when you die. Also, try helmets with different amounts and configurations of padding.
A helmet will break your neck in a crash. Again, this goes to wearing the right size. If it fits properly, it should not snap your head and neck around in a crash. The added weight of a helmet is not very much. A rider is far more likely to suffer serious head injury or death from crashing without a helmet than they are to have their neck broken with a helmet on.
Helmets are hot. Yeah, and cement is hard. Get a helmet with sweat wicking lining and vents. I've ridden in 99F heat. My head does sweat some. With the head and jaw vents open, it's really not so bad. Flip open your visor. Try a helmet with no visor, if you really feel you must. Take off your helmet at a stop light to cool off. Use caution though. The cager behind you may not stop. When it's cold out, you'll enjoy the warmth of a helmet.
I've been riding since you were in diapers. Don't worry about me, bro. Hey. Cool. You're a bad ass. You'll be a bad ass and in diapers again when you wipe out bare headed, bro.
In The Course, we were taught to always wear our helmet. Our instructors did and they are certified instructors who have been riding since they were in diapers, bro. I can't think of one reason not to wear a helmet. I do know I've got a much better chance of retaining the ability to think since I do wear one.
Jackets, pants, boots and riding suits are also good options. I have been riding around town and briefly on interstate with only a helmet, leather boots that cover my ankles, a long sleeve shirt and blue jeans. The helmet is the most important piece. Before I take to commuting to work on the highways and interstate, I will have a padded textile jacket and am considering riding pants. I may look 'all duded up' but, I'll be alive to look that way.
Seriously, for safety sake, it does make more sense to have helmet laws than not to. I'm just not about getting up in your business. You wanna be a bad ass jack ass dumb ass, go ahead. Me? I'm protecting my head.
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#274327 - 07/03/08 01:15 PM
Re: Helmet Laws
[Re: Myrddin]
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Domestic Affairs Moderator
Registered: 10/03/06
Loc: California
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There was a time, I didn't think seat belt laws were appropriate.... I have come to realize a seatbelt worn by the driver secures him/her in place enough to better control a vehicle in the event of an accident. The passengers become projectiles also, causing potential harm to other people if he or she is not wearing a seat belt.
I believe helmets should be optional. I interned for a large law firm while in college, and was subjected to the results of many mtorcycle accidents. The ones I saw, the victims were in bad shape regardless whether wearing a helmet. A helmet might add protection for a motorcyclist traveling at low speeds through retirement neighborhoods, but once he/she is driving on the real road.....in the real world...well, flying off a motorcycle at 60 mph with a helmet on will help little.
I ski, and the new safety precaution is wearing a helmet...probably a good idea, but I can't get excited about wearing one skiing. I know wearing one might save my life. I think I will just stop skiing if it is this dangerous, it's not like I'm Picabo Street flying down the mountain at 70 mph + ....
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#275804 - 07/17/08 04:35 PM
Re: Helmet Laws
[Re: Aint]
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Registered: 07/16/08
Loc: Georgia, USA
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There are small price reductions in insurance for parking in a garage at home, sometimes at work and sometimes even just parking 'off street'.
The are breaks in the cost for the safety rating of a vehicle or increases for not being as highly rated. This one shows up in motorcycle insurance, big time. A cruiser costs far lass to insure than a sport bike.
Given that, I say helmets wearers should get a break on their insurance rates. We are wearing the safety gear. I agree with you.. but here's the thing... I go to get insurance, all the while telling the insurance agent and signing something that states "Yep, I always wear my helmet, wouldn't dream of riding without it, heck, I might start walking with it on because it's much safer" Then BAM! I'm in an accident and no helmet in sight. I don't die, becuase I was only going 25 MPH in a school zone when a St. Bernhard ran out in front of me, and I rode into a parked car trying to avoid the beast... From an insurance companies point of view, I provided false statements on my insurance application, and by golly, I'll get dropped from my insurance. However, there are those pesky statistics that insurance companies love so much that say something like a rider not wearing a helmet is at an X% higher risk of traumatic brain injury. So, I'm now a cucumber drooling on myself because either the machine helping me breath makes it impossible for me to swallow, or I just can't seem to remember how to swallow at this point. The insurance company's choice here is not as cut and dried as one might think. They can, according to the contract that I signed when I got the coverage states, refuse to pay any and all claims due to false statements provided on the application. At which time, my now destitute spouse will get a call from a very hungry attorny who promises that "if you don't win, I don't get paid!" and even if it's not quite right, and I was definately in the wrong, the insurance company will either be in court for years, or more than likely just pay my spouse, and her now fat attorney off to keep down expenses. Oh, by the way.. Those expenses are passed along to you because I was an idiot. With that kind of risk, well, me telling an insurance company that I always wear my helmet probably isn't going to get me a discount. Now if a hidden arm held my shoulders and slammed said helmet on my head as soon as I started up the bike?.. now thats worth a discount.... LOL
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#275849 - 07/18/08 01:44 AM
Re: Helmet Laws
[Re: jokul]
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Registered: 11/29/06
Loc: PNW
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Right on, Jo, except the arguement could be made that the government used our money to build those roads. It's what's happening here.
We must replace a major bridge that's over 20 yrs beyond its design life. The original bridge was tolled. Once the bonds were paid off through tolling, the tolls were dropped. This was followed by an unprecedented and unplanned for period of growth.
In order to replace the bridge, tolls (according to the DoT) will have to be re-instituted and a lot of the people are saying, 'No!--We paid for it once with tolls, let the Government pay for it's replacement.' No one seems to realize that when the government pays for something, it's using our money to pay for it. And, if the money isn't there (beyond a certain amount,) we have to provide it--if we want to get across a bridge.
We are the government! If we mandate helmet laws, if we mandate the need for insurance to operate a vehicle on the roads we have provided for everyone's use--are we the tyrannical government?
We're certainly the people/government faced with rising medical costs, rising medical insurance costs in order to keep stupid people alive who don't have enough sense to drive safely and defensively, who don't buckle-up, who drink and drive, and who don't wear helmets to protect us.
Let freedom ring--but think about everyone else affected by your moment of choice.
Edited by lizbeth (07/18/08 01:47 AM) Edit Reason: changes reflect my intensity re this (and many other) subjects
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