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#273020 - 06/22/08 05:21 PM Re: Vindication [Re: Cy_Click]
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Can you hear me now?

Registered: 08/08/06
Loc: Minneapolis,MN
Originally by: Ray

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So a couple of weeks ago I heard John Murtha's outrageous condemnation of the "Haditha Marines" being defended on TV by someone who reminded everyone that, after all, Murtha had served in the marines. This was apparently intended to make Murtha bullet-proof to criticism. The reply to that was, "Lee Harvey Oswald was a marine, too. What's your point?"
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Why would this be intended to make him bullet-proof to criticism and not just make one question why a former marine would simply come out and criticize the marines for absolutely no reason. Isn't that as valid a thought as intending to make him bullet-proof? The reply you find so entertaining might apply if Oswald was remebered as someone who criticized the marines but I don't remember that part of history being played up. What was the Point of the Oswald comparison. To make Murtha look like he shot a president?

What did the point end up being?

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#273021 - 06/22/08 05:33 PM Re: Vindication [Re: Helice]
Ray Offline
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Registered: 09/22/00
Loc: Arkansas, USA
Originally by: Helice
I tell you that when Dax speaks, he is no liar, so now, the next time you call him a liar, you will be calling me a liar as well.

Well...as the wise woman once said:

Originally by: Helice elsewhere in the forums
Calling liars what they are is nothing more than clear sight.


Originally by: Helice
And spend a little time ridding youraelf of Ray's slogans. They never did *him* much credit and they sound even worse coming from you. Go back to being a Libertarian... the collar isn't as tight. More blood will reach your brain. Leave the McCarthyism to Ray.

You, Helice. You and your ilk created the "monster." Poor Lawmage did his best to be a good Moderate. I've watched many times as he tried (and continues to try) to use logical argument and dignified debate to illuminate issues on a wide range of topics. But he has been exposed to the constant, vicious, illogical, uninformed rantings of the political left long enough that, apparently, he has come to realize a number of my "slogans" are spot on.

My "signature" line isn't a bumper sticker. It's a pithy encapsulation of a pathetic truism.
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"But then, somehow, they always blame America first." -- Jeanne Kirkpatrick

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#273026 - 06/22/08 06:12 PM Re: Vindication [Re: Ray]
Helice Online   sleepy

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Registered: 09/01/97
Loc: CT, US
He makes my case for me.

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#273035 - 06/22/08 08:16 PM Re: Vindication [Re: Lawmage]
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Registered: 09/29/05
Loc: Damn close to EVERYWHERE!
Originally by: Lawmage
As for the rest...I will ease off on Dax when he eases off on his bullshit and unrelenting attacks on the Administration. Not because I care that much about the Administration, in truth I dislike most of the people associated with Bush and harbor little affection for him, but because I give a shit about the truth. I give a shit about calling a spade a spade, regardless of its party membership. That makes me a rarity here at the moment...hell, to be pointed about it, it makes me an oddity.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of our rights as Americans the ability to disagree with those who *we* have allowed to govern us? It feels as though this Administration in particular is more self-serving than others, and has repeatedly disregarded the governed in its pursuit of whatever it sees as important. Aren't they in office to serve US? Are all the polls lying when they report Bush's low ratings?

Government "of the people, by the people, and for the people"? It hasn't felt like that in a long time.

Lawmage, you have spoken of revolution several times before in this public forum, and several times I have asked you how to do this, only to be ignored. For whatever it's worth, I am a pacifist, but that doesn't make me a weakling or a coward, nor does it mean that I am not angered by present circumstances.

I have always admired your tenacity and loyalty to the Constitution, Law; you serve this country, and for that I commend you. Then if you honestly give a shit about Truth, you need to listen to those whom you serve. Perhaps their "truth" might be a shade different than yours, but truth nonetheless.
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#273122 - 06/24/08 02:12 AM Re: Vindication [Re: WindDancer]
lizbeth Offline
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Registered: 11/29/06
Loc: PNW
Will history vindicate Bush, Cheney, Addington, Yoo and Gonzales?
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#273169 - 06/24/08 05:36 PM Re: Vindication [Re: lizbeth]
Dax Online   content

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Registered: 08/01/99
Loc: New York, NY (New York)
Vindicate them? Do you mean will they be vindicated of trashing the constitution, trampling our rights and violating the law?

No, history will not vindicate them, it will in fact eventually indict them (not necessarily legally), presuming all of the administration's records aren't shredded. And maybe even then.

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#273470 - 06/27/08 03:05 AM Re: Vindication [Re: Dax]
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Registered: 11/29/06
Loc: PNW
I think there is enough evidence against Bush, Cheney et al, which has been kept from the shredder to allow history to make its indictments.
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#287869 - 11/18/08 10:40 AM Re: Vindication [Re: lizbeth]
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Registered: 03/18/03
Loc: Somewhere in the Delta...


Good LORD, what a mess y'all made over here! Glad I missed it...



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