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#272244 - 06/16/08 02:14 PM NASCAR Drivers Complain Too Much
deifan Offline

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Registered: 03/08/05
Loc: Amarillo,Tx
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NASCAR is tired of hearing the negative message some of the stock car sport’s driving stars have been sending to fans lately. Too many complaints about the new generation car, bumpy race tracks and numerous other things, and not enough positive reinforcement for fans.

NASCAR president Mike Helton held a “mandatory” meeting Friday morning for drivers and the team owners who already were on hand at Michigan International Speedway. Things apparently reached a critical mass last week at Pocono, where it appeared nobody was happy about the rough track or the so-called “Car of Tomorrow” that is still being developed, or the intense heat that had many drivers near exhaustion after a 500-mile race most of them believe should be no longer than 400 miles.

Apparently, the main bone of contention is the almost constant grumbling over the new car, a more uniform construction intended to cut costs for the teams and enhance competition on track. It was introduced last season, after seven years of development by NASCAR and the teams, with a 16-race schedule before running for the full season in 2008.

The complaint level hit a season high in the wake of Pocono, and Helton reacted.

“He wanted to remind our drivers about their responsibility to the fans,” said NASCAR spokesman Jim Hunter. “He felt it has become a negative environment and reminded them to think about the fans, what they are facing, the rising cost of gas and the hardships, particularly in an area like this that has been hit so hard by the economy.”


I agree. There entirely too many complaints about the cars. They are only in their second year of driving the cars. They need to giv it time for the engineers to fix the problems. Some of these tracks haven't been run by the Car of Tomorrow yet. After this season, they will have done some changes that might make the drivers happy.

They complain that the tracks are too bumpy. Well, not everything can be perfect! Right? I don't know what they expect when they are running 200 mph with almost no springs (because they want the car close to the ground) to make it a smooth ride. If the rough spots were throwing the cars all over the place, I could see the complaints.

I know they're complaining about the heat and I'm sure NASCAR is going to figure out how to help keep the drivers cooler. Like they are doing some plastic style seats (I can't remember the name of it) that will help a lot. IF they can figure out a way to keep the heat coming from the floor down, that would be a big plus.

I think the drivers need to just settle down and let them figure out what is needed and how to deliver it. They will get it as close to perfect as they can, but be patient. The fans aren't going anywhere. We will be there no matter what.

Here's some quotes from some of the drivers:

Dale Earnhardt Jr.

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“My interpretation was the drivers should be thankful for the position they’re in and should be more positive about where this car is going to be in a year or two.I was pretty critical, overly critical at times. The only reason drivers are like that is we feel like our best avenue is through the media because it’s very effective."


Greg Biffle
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“I think it was (NASCAR) saying, ‘Hey, we haven’t raced this car at all the tracks yet’ was the message.We haven’t been to Michigan with it, we haven’t been to Chicago and all these other places with the car yet. So don’t jump to conclusions prior to actually seeing what it’s going to be like. So, I think it was more like, ‘Hey, let’s wait and see.’ This is our first year with this car. Like they said, they’re making a commitment to keep working on the car or working with the teams to make the racing better. If we need to make an adjustment, I don’t think they’re against making adjustments as we go with this car.”


Denny Hamlin
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“I took that they are just frustrated that they’re not getting a fair shake from us drivers. We’re jumping to conclusions a little too soon and not giving this car enough time to develop.”


What do y'all think?
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#272258 - 06/16/08 04:45 PM Re: NASCAR Drivers Complain Too Much [Re: deifan]
jokul Offline
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Registered: 03/10/02
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I don't hear the drivers complaining nearly as much in the winner's circle as they do outside of it. I've mostly looked at the complaining as making excuses for not winning. They are all in the same car, on the same track, and in the same heat for the same race. It does hurt racing to hear all the complaining. I don't feel bad for a driver complaining about some little thing.
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#272266 - 06/16/08 06:46 PM Re: NASCAR Drivers Complain Too Much [Re: jokul]
Cy_Click Offline

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Registered: 08/08/06
Loc: Minneapolis,MN
I remember races of old seemed to have all types of cars and what not. I haven't paid alot of attention lately. Are they all racing the same car with the paint job the only difference? Or by 'new car' does that just mean new rules for what the car can have to be legal?

Are the cars issued to the teams or sometiung or do they actually build them from the same blueprints or someting?

As far as the bumpy tracks, I could see some complaints from drivers that feel they should have ideal conditions in which to perform but if the cars are the same why wouldn't everyone win if all other conditions are perfect? Is the drive to keep as many drivers in the race and on the lead lap as possible good for the sport?

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#272270 - 06/16/08 08:19 PM Re: NASCAR Drivers Complain Too Much [Re: Cy_Click]
deifan Offline

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Loc: Amarillo,Tx
The cars are for the most part identical. The difference is really in the little side windows. The big difference is that they are using different manufacturers engines and drive trains. But like I said, for the most part, they're the same. The rules are much more strict for these new cars.

Each team builds the car from blueprints (I guess you'd say)and are the same. The designs are very specific and there is actually no bending them in any way you could with the old cars. The old cars had several different designs that they used. (Much like you used to see)

The thing is, they have the same car but they set the cars up different for each driver. Some drivers like their cars to be loose, some like tight. Some like tight in, loose out of the turns. Just because the car is the same design, doesn't mean they all perform the same. Like last year, when they introduced the cars, Chevrolet dominated because they were on top of the game. While Ford and Dodge were ok during the race. Toyota on the other hand, couldn't run good with the others pushing them. This year, Dodge and Toyota are kicking ass and taking names. It all comes down to who could set the car up the best.

They didn't make these cars to keep more people on the lead lap, but to cut down on the accidents and make the drivers safer. They thought there would be more side-by-side racing but that didn't start happening until this season and there's still not much of that. But yes, more guys on the lead lap is better because it means more guys you have to beat. I'm beginning to like the ways things are turning out.
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#272278 - 06/16/08 10:32 PM Re: NASCAR Drivers Complain Too Much [Re: deifan]
Cy_Click Offline

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Registered: 08/08/06
Loc: Minneapolis,MN
Yeah I forgot about the setups. This can certainly make the difference and a good read matched with the right driver can make the difference. Like I say, I haven't really paid attention so "new cars" sounded like it meant a NASCAR standard or something. I did think they had different options for the engines because simply putting a Ford sticker really didn't seem appropriate if that's all it was.

If, in this case, the officials are getting it right that's great. Sometimes a little too much foolin' around can make things not as good. Have you seen the Roller Derby lately? Just kidding.

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