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#263640 - 03/29/08 04:14 PM Re: Farewell to one of the prophets of science. [Re: Helice]
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This is so off-topic, Myr, that I don't mind however you edit it or wherever you decide to move it. ;\)

Can anyone explain the system of British Knighthoods to me? Every so often one hears in the news that some entertainer, celebrity, or author is receiving a knighthood.

Why? What does being a knight mean? "Knighthood" is attached to all sorts of medieval tales in my mind, and I really can't understand why there should be a "Sir Elton John" in the world. What is the equivalent award for women, is it "Damehood"? You never hear in the news that someone is about to be "Damed".

I know it isn't hereditory... Is it just the Crown's way of a pat on the back and saying "well done!"? Why not just a statuette and certificate?
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#263652 - 03/30/08 12:46 AM Re: Farewell to one of the prophets of science. [Re: Helice]
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 Originally Posted By: Helice
In America, tabloids sometimes make outrageous claims, but because we have some very severe civil and criminal remedies for such outrageous slander as attributing confessions of crimes to prominent figures, they just stay clear of doing that.


Do the American tabloids stay clear of making outrageous claims when the victim lives in Sri Lanka? For that matter, what discourages posting outrageous claims on the internet?

Lacking any uncontrovertible proof I would reformat my brain.
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#263672 - 03/30/08 08:28 AM Re: Farewell to one of the prophets of science. [Re: Helice]
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 Originally Posted By: Helice
This is so off-topic, Myr, that I don't mind however you edit it or wherever you decide to move it. ;\)


As long as its brief, and does not totally take over the thread, I will leave it here.

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Can anyone explain the system of British Knighthoods to me?


Basically it the way the British monarchy, give a reward to those whom they think have given some great service to the UK or have risen to high rank in entertainment.

A man becomes a "Sir" after being knighted, while a woman becomes a "Dame".

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"Knighthood" is attached to all sorts of medieval tales in my mind, and I really can't understand why there should be a "Sir Elton John" in the world.

It is supposed to be attached to those ideas, since its an award given by the archaic system of monarchy in the UK. It adds to the romance of the award/title.

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What is the equivalent award for women, is it "Damehood"? You never hear in the news that someone is about to be "Damed".

Yes, women become Dames as far as I know. I think the title "Lady" is reserved for the hereditary or other forms of peership.

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Why not just a statuette and certificate?
But then you wouldn't get to put "Sir" before your name, the romance of award would be reduced, and it would look like you were receiving an Oscar,Grammy or BAFTA award.
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#263698 - 03/30/08 02:41 PM Re: Farewell to one of the prophets of science. [Re: Myrddin]
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I won't belabor it, but I just feel that, well, perhaps it's appropriate to Knight (or "Dame") someone who has done something impressive for the country or the world... perhaps something brave militarily, or a great scientific contribution that improves and advances the quality of life, or a great thinker or philosopher who illuminates us... and yes, even brilliant visionary novelists like Sir Arthur C. Clarke. I can see how they are deserving of such a grand and honorable title.

But.... Sir Elton John...????

What were they thinking!?

Okay, all done. \:\)
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