I think it is interesting to see the riots in Tibet being given so much attention in the media. Let me say from the out-set that I don't believe the West has nothing to do with disturbances in Tibet, so I think it's only right the Chinese deal with Tibetans like the Jews deal with the Palestinians: Humanely putting them down one by one. I have a question: Is China's claim on Tibet more valid than Israel's claim on Palestine?

I think once the Olympics are over China is going to flex its muscles, while reminding the world that China does not like losing face as it is now with the embarrassment over Tibet.

I think Cassiel is using irony in his posts. Tibet has always been China's biggest internal problem. Even when I was there in 1975 the Chinese authorities refuses to discuss this issue.

Tibet no longer wants independence but autonmy. Hong Kong and Macau have this. Why are Buddhist temples and even Christian churches are allowed in these territories but not encourage in Tibet?
An attempt to flood Tibet with Han chinese will fail. Rarely is an occupying power are able to change the ethnic makeup of a society without a great deal of harm.

For China's sake it should allow autonomy for Tibet. It must face up to the issue as will not go away.

Biggest lot of bullshit you have posted yet!

I wont even qualify that with a reason, it pretty damned obvious.

No it's not.

What?

Not the biggest pile of bull or pretty damned obvious?

Here is a polite request: Can we please have posts with slightly more substance than "No it's not" please? It's a little vague, and doesn't add much.

Anyway...

There are certain differences between the China/Tibet situation and the one in Israel/Palestine. For example, I have not seen many Palestinians on peaceful protest marches demanding democracy. On the other hand, I've not seen that many Tibetan monks blowing up Chinese discos. So I think we can agree the situations aren't quite the same.

I don't agree with Israel's policy, at least not all of it. In my opinion they are too heavy-handed, and accept too much death of innocent people in Gaza and the West Bank as collateral. I think that is due to having grown up in the latter part of Northern Ireland conflict, I've seen other ways of fighting terrorism than that used by Israel.

On the other hand, China's method of dealing with Tibet is outrageous. The merciless way they have crushed any opposition there, and destroyed peaceful marches is, frankly, disgusting.

Biblical literalists should be able to accept Israel's policy with no problem, as the God of the Old Testament was a vengeful, take-no-prisoners God who'd happily slay every man, woman and child in a captured nation because they were enemies of the chosen people.

Israel doesn't go quite as far as God in that respect.

Re Tibet, the diffrences between Tibet and China vs. Israel and Palestine are so vast as to require only the slightest hint of intelligence to understand.

Tibet was a homogeneous country, a warrior country converted over the course of 100 years to a nation of peaceful people, through the power of Buddhism.

They were minding their own business when the Chinese invaded them on the pretext that the land actually belonged to China. The Chinese killed who they had to, took over, and eventually subjugated the peaceful and religious Tibetans.

The situation of Israel (a heterogeneous population, a newly created country, an emotional symbol for holocaust survivors, a homeland for the diaspora Jews) and Palestine (most of whose population is Jordanian, the true homeland of the Palestinians) is as different from China-Tibet as night and day.

Dax;

All that you say there a famous Jewish writer called Arthur Kostler wrote a book called the Thirteenth Tribe which says that the Jews true homeland really is Russia,nowhere near the middleast.

Dax China has been around for at least 5000 years America is telling china that Tibet is not part of China,China must thinking that "America has got some front" they must be thinking this country came about "last week Friday" and you are going to tell us what's what in our back yard,do you know how funny that must be to the Chinese?I am betting though that the Chinese stopped laughing when they heard that Pelosi woman speak yesterday was she on drugs?

Koestler (the correct spelling) may say Russia is the real Jewish homeland, but that doesn't mean it's so. There is much biblical, architectural and historical evidence to show otherwise.


Tibet's been around since at least 1063 BC and was a recognized, independent nation, which had never needed China, but China one day in 1949 decided they wanted to "liberate" all Chinese, including those in Tibet. Negotiations failed, and China attacked Tibet in 1950. All it was, really, was a successful attempt by China to grab some more territory. Tibet is now considered a part of China.

Dax:

All this evidence you talk of is all lies,and the world now knows this and this is why ant-semetism is rising all over the world.

Dax:


No Dax just because the west says that the Jews homeland is in Israel does not make it so.