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#24841 - 03/19/03 09:38 AM Re: "Palpably Absurd"
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quote: Originally posted by Syrianoz
SO I VOTE NO with 5 degree of certainty and I have used the info I have to decide this, not just random biased superstition influenced by pro-war Media.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yada, yada, yada. Now listen Oz. I don't mean to give you a hard time, but (oh wait! That was a lie. I DO mean to give him a hard time. I'm sorry. Never mind) but when I saw you say that you voted "NO" I went and checked the poll results just to see how it was going. And what did it show?
  • YES - 8 - 100%
  • NO - 0 - 0%

    Son, where did you learn about voting and marking election ballots? In Florida? You're the UK version of an elderly Broward County Democrat, aren't you? Now get up there, click your cursor in the little "No" circle and press "Submit Vote."

    (Jeez! I gotta hold these people by the hand. My work is NEVER done!)



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    #24842 - 03/19/03 10:03 AM Re: "Palpably Absurd"
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    yes

    Have to give a 4 to WMD--however, failure to comply with order to destroy means of delivery (i.e., outlawed missiles and drones) ought to rate a 5.

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    #24843 - 03/19/03 10:10 AM Operation Cover Butt
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    quote: Originally posted by Ray:
    Mind you I can just see the US and UK planting WMDs and documents to use as their propoganda for this war...
    Ah, yes...Preparing for all the possibilities...I can just picture it right now:

    "What? The Americans found a chemical weapons arsenal in a bunker in one of Saddam's palaces...NONSENSE!! It is fake! planted by the Americans...everyone knows iraq has no weapons The inspectors said in 1998 iraq was 90 - 95% disarmed. these are just excuses for the US and UK to launch aggression and steal the oil! It's the pro-war media playing tricks! Be careful of hypocrisy!!"

    Or perhaps it's just deja vu...

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    #24844 - 03/19/03 10:41 AM Re: Operation Cover Butt
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    . o O (quote: Originally posted by Ray?)

    Rhetorical! You TWIT!! That was SYRIANOZ who said that!

    . o O (Jeez! I gotta hold their hands around here. My work is never done!)



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    #24845 - 03/19/03 10:48 AM Re: "Palpably Absurd"
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    Quote:


    Son, where did you learn about voting and marking election ballots? In Florida? You're the UK version of an elderly Broward County Democrat, aren't you? Now get up there, click your cursor in the little "No" circle and press "Submit Vote."





    We arabs are used to voting YES in elections.. YES YES YES We got shot if we ruin 100%

    (btw I clicked on the NO like RAY told me too)
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    #24846 - 03/19/03 11:10 AM Re: "Palpably Absurd"
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    That was humorous OZ, Good one there. beat us to it. One could almost say pre-emptively.

    Nice pic by the way.

    Now dont get any silly ideas just because i said nice pic. Besides i doubt you could afford me.
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    #24847 - 03/19/03 12:35 PM Re: "Palpably Absurd"
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    I believe that Saddam has weapons which he might use.BUT that makes no excuse for the forthcoming war.America has no right of invading Iraq without the approval of the UN or NATO or the Security Council.

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    #24848 - 03/19/03 12:46 PM Re: "Palpably Absurd"
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    It is wholly a pleasure to welcome you to the Town Meeting, Trinity. We're honored you've chosen our humble forum for your first official Fool Moon posting.

    UN approval? Oh my dear, we have had plenty of UN approval over the past year. Resolutions and security council votes out the wahzoo! BUT, if the United Nations (I use the term lightly) are not willing to live up to their obligations, then I fear WE must live up to those obligations. Don't worry. After the dust settles and Iraq is returned to the fold of the civilized world, I'm sure the UN will have the chance to pretend is was all THEIR idea to start with.


    Once again, Trinity, good to have you here, and we hope you become a regular.

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    #24849 - 03/19/03 02:00 PM Re: Change of Course
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    WHAT?! So let me get this straight...You NOW believe that Iraq DOES have banned weapons of mass destruction? Because if so, does that not imply some degree of legitimacy in the upcoming invasion of Iraq?



    Rhet, you really need to pay more attention.

    I have never denied the legitimacy of a U.S. attack on Iraq, simply the timing, the reasons, and the manner in which it is being done. I still believe that having given the inspectors more time to find more weapons, we could have considerably reduced the amount of any weapons he may still possess. Now that the inspectors are gone, that will not happen, and we'll have to speculate on what he may still have.

    Does Saddam Hussein possess chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction? I can't say with any certainty, and anyone who thinks they can is fooling themselves. We simply don't know, but on the off chance that he does have them, the U.S. has left him with no options. So if attacked, there is no reason for him NOT to use them. He's gone no matter what happens now, and if he does have them, I would expect him to use them.

    Saddam is much like the evil villians of comic book lore. When capture is near, they blow up everything and try to make a quick get away. Look for Saddam to do just that. I just hope our government won't abandon our soldiers who suffer from exposure as they have our Gulf War veterans.
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    #24850 - 03/19/03 03:27 PM Re: Change of Course
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    The dust settles? How can you talk like that about a war. The dust will settle but there will be things that will never settle. There will be lives lost, children without parents, there will be cancer and other diseases caused by the bombs, there will be people suffering in Iraq. The war won t just cause some dust...
    Because of all these I don t think that anyone,not even the UN, will applaud the war in Iraq after it is over.War under no conditions is good but sometimes is necessary.This time isn t.America should have wait more for more weapons to be found if the true goal of this war was global peace and security.
    I don t like Saddam but I also don t like the way America "handles" the matter.Nobody wants war, nobody.America should have considered that before starting a war but America didn t.No power gives that right to anybody.
    Even if UN,NATO and the Security Council approve the war people won t and that cannot change.

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