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#244536 - 01/04/08 08:21 AM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Lawmage]
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Ignoring for a moment the fact that America IS superior to third world nations, lets probe deeper into the issue. Lets reduce it to its fundamentals...Okay, Stone...Why is it that you see the sort of election fraud in Africa that leads to the sort of violence we are seeing in Kenya? What is different between America and Kenya?

I would have to say that it's a combination of economics, corruption, lack of a well established election process, bad governance, and tribalism that have contributed to the chaos we have seen in Kenya.
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#277714 - 08/05/08 05:53 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: cassielA]
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Chad a country next door to Sudan has just booted out an American oil company called cheveron and I expect to see more countrys do exactly the same thing in the future,blood sucking the African continent has to stop.We fully expect civil wars to break out in some African countrys and the house knee-grow country that help blood suck the poor and send the money back to the west to be overthrown.Oh by the way when you see certain black countrys acting like Israel did in Lebaban and go on a wrecking spree rooting out the house knee-grows don't come crying to us the example has been been shown to them how to get away with mass murder all in the name of self defense and the national self interest.

Just watching CNN and there is a report saying that some people in the west and South Africa are worried about Jacob Zuma becoming president of South Africa.Why would anybody,or country worry about this man if you are not engaged in blood sucking of the poor.I am looking forward to the elections in South African next year,I see real and lasting change coming to Africa,all house knee-grows should do what they can, while they can.
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#277781 - 08/06/08 11:38 AM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: cassielA]
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Didn't those, uh, house knee-grows pretty much kick the Dutch out of there? Didn't they establish black rule in S. Africa?

Maybe I've been away too long and the Boers are back.

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#277793 - 08/06/08 12:46 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Dax]
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Didn't those, uh, house knee-grows pretty much kick the Dutch out of there? Didn't they establish black rule in S. Africa?

Gosh! That's pretty much the way I remember it, too, Dax. But maybe you and I are thinking about a different "South Africa." Are there two of them? Sort of like the "Republic of Congo" and the "Democratic Republic of Congo?" I'm confused.
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#288693 - 12/03/08 07:12 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Ray]
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Mr cool dude:
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Didn't those, uh, house knee-grows pretty much kick the Dutch out of there? Didn't they establish black rule in S. Africa?

Uncle Ray lead astray by Dax:
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Gosh! That's pretty much the way I remember it, too, Dax. But maybe you and I are thinking about a different "South Africa." Are there two of them? Sort of like the "Republic of Congo" and the "Democratic Republic of Congo?" I'm confused.

It's been all over the news that there is cholera in Zimbabwe I am just wondering if you smart and funny gentlemen have thoughts or comments about this
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#288711 - 12/04/08 05:57 AM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: cassielA]
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Originally by: cassielA

It's been all over the news that there is cholera in Zimbabwe I am just wondering if you smart and funny gentlemen have thoughts or comments about this


What is Robert Mugabe doing about the outbreak?
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#288721 - 12/04/08 12:02 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: cassielA]
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CassielA: It's been all over the news that there is cholera in Zimbabwe I am just wondering if you smart and funny gentlemen have thoughts or comments about this

Cholerea isn't funny even if George Bush and Dick Cheney had it.

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#288724 - 12/04/08 12:30 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Dax]
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CassielA asked: It's been all over the news that there is cholera in Zimbabwe I am just wondering if you smart and funny gentlemen have thoughts or comments about this
Gee...who would have thought that destroying your domestic food production capabilities, destroying your health infrastructure and neglecting what was not destroyed, and denying basic sanitation services to your country would lead to a disease outbreak?

I am curious though, Cass...what do YOU think about this latest cholera outbreak? Is it the work of the CIA or the WHO or the Men In Black? Certainly it is not the fault of Mugabe or any other dark skinned victim of white devil oppression...
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#288735 - 12/04/08 05:17 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Lawmage]
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The US has spent millions if not billions of dollars and thousands of people putting in countless hours on eradicating and controlling diseases on the continent of Africa. If that help was squandered by the leaders of the nations who received it, that's on them.
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#288795 - 12/05/08 06:18 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Aint]
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Ok Aint I am not going to go to much,but all thinking and and aware knee-grows laugh their nuts off when they read troubling statements like this.

Aint:
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The US has spent millions if not billions of dollars and thousands of people putting in countless hours on eradicating and controlling diseases on the continent of Africa. If that help was squandered by the leaders of the nations who received it, that's on them.

Aint I have read enough of your posts so I know that you to are a smart American,so would you like to tell me of any country in Africa that America/the west has helped since the WW2 that the west can hold up to the Africans and the world and say "see what we have done to help you.I await your answer Aint with baited breath.

Myrddiin:
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What is Robert Mugabe doing about the outbreak?

I think he is praying for change.

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I am curious though, Cass...what do YOU think about this latest cholera outbreak? Is it the work of the CIA or the WHO or the Men In Black? Certainly it is not the fault of Mugabe or any other dark skinned victim of white devil oppression...

Let's Look at this problem again shall we Captain America.The British government promised the new government of Robert Mugabe money to pay off the white farmers for the land distribution that was going to take place in Zimbabwe.Once it became clear that England was not going to honour the deal Zimbabwe/Mugabe started down this road which has lead to so much suffering.I am not sure what you are expecting me to say.

The west is treating Zimbabwe like a runaway slaved who is recaptured before being put to death he would be humiliated,to show the other slaves what would happen to them if they stepped out of line.Zimbabwe stepped out of line,and the west has punished that country with sanctions,which has contributed to the suffering in Zimbabwe,so no matter which way you cut it Lawmage the west hands are not clean when it comes to Zimbabwe.

Lawmage I am curious do you think that the government in Zimbabwe is worse than government of Israel which treats the Palestinians in Gaza like animals.Why are people in the west so quick to want to impose sanctions on Zimbabwe and will do everything in it's power to stop sanctions being applied to Israel?

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Cholerea isn't funny even if George Bush and Dick Cheney had it.

This is true.It's sad to see the suffering in Zimbabwe but I think things will change for the better in Zimbabwe and South Africa when Jacob Zuma takes power in 2009.
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