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#241615 - 12/15/07 03:15 PM
Re: Steroid Use Among Baseball Players
[Re: Dax]
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Registered: 08/08/06
Loc: Minneapolis,MN
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...... I think we should either ban steroids outright, or permit them outright for professional athletes. ......
I think I pretty much feel the same way. Personally, I like the idea of sport and the teamwork it should involve. In this respect, I'd like the participants to be the best available from unmodified human beings. There is, however, a thin line but unmodified or not. Certainly, extra push-ups would be an advantage in a test of stamina, but how to define what goes beyond man's abilities. But if it's simply entertainment and the players are the 'objects' of that entertainment, I'm not sure I'd see any reason to oppose them using whatever it takes to entertain me. As long as they're happy with whatever they get out of it and accept any trade-offs, I don't think it would be cheating. And if my team wins, I might even overlook cheating.
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#241713 - 12/16/07 07:02 AM
Re: Steroid Use Among Baseball Players
[Re: Ray]
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Registered: 02/26/02
Loc: Britain - We're Not Afraid
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I have to say, and this honestly saddens me, that American sport (with the exception of athletics, and possibly MLS, both of which look to international governing bodies) is so weak on the subject of performance-enhancing drugs.
MLB had (although it has improved slightly) the worst drugs policy int he world. A first failed or missed test would not even be made public, and it would take 7 (SEVEN) failed or missed test to cause a 1 year ban. The NFL is not much better, two players this year have had 4 match bans for using drugs. In Rugby League in this country, players would get a 4 match ban for punching someone...
Any other sport, in any other country, a failed drug test is an AUTOMATIC 2 year ban from competition. NO excuses, NO exceptions (Actually, that's not true. If you are Shane Warne, and you fail a test in Australia where they need your spin-bowling for the test side, you get away with it). A second failed test is a life-time ban.
I don't agree with the idea of making it OK to take performance-enhancing drugs. Firstly, it is dangerous. Secondly, it detracts from the competativeness of sport. When I watch an NFL game, I want the team that is a better football team to win, not the team that has pumped themselves full of more drugs than the other. Also, it promotes a quick-fix culture for youngsters, who'll be watching and thinking to themselves "They aren't as good, and they took drugs, and now they rock. I'm not as good as other kids, maybe that wil work for me too". I'm not sure we should be promoting that to children.
As it stands, high-school and college kids are taking pain-killers before games so they can play. If their injury hurts so much they need pain-killers to play through it, they should not be playing! By doing so, they risk serious, long-term health problems. Add into that sort of mix steroids and other performancing-enhancing drugs, and you have a health disaster waiting to happen.
All sports everywhere should be united against drugs, and I fully support the idea of "1 strike and you're out", and the two-year ban. The threat of such a suspension is so great that in most sports, the drug problem is minute. In sports where the threat isn't so bad, such as Major League Baseball, it's come right back to bite them in the ass.
It is now time for baseball to take a serious look at itself, and serious tighten up the drug policy. And it is time for Commissioner Goodell of the NFL to do the same, NOW, before this happens again to his league in a few years time.
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#242469 - 12/20/07 09:45 PM
Re: Steroid Use Among Baseball Players
[Re: Dax]
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Registered: 11/29/06
Loc: PNW
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It is sad, Dax, especially for kids who are ruining their lives before they've even begun. But greed over honesty is rampant in certain economic classes--not just sports. And the kids, then, learn their lessons from their parents rather than from some highly admired, highly touted sports icon.
Alex Rodreguiz--A Rod, the business man,--isn't a particular favorite of mine; but he, at least, seems to honestly play the game for himself. If he's honest in that, it can be assumed that he's honest when he says that he doesn't take PEDs.
It would be nice if we could take baseball back to the time of Mom's apple pie and the tooth fairy leaving a nickle for incisors and a dime for molars, but it won't happen.
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