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#233517 - 10/16/07 12:53 AM Sore throat. Remedies and myths.
Elena Moderator Offline
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Myth №1.

If you have a sore throat don’t visit a doctor.
No, this is wrong. Sore throat can be caused not only by angina, but different infectios diseases. Diphtheria, for example.

Myth №2.

Herbs can solve this problem.
It depends on diagnosis. If it is just pharyngitis, chamomile will help you, but angina needs to be cured by antibiotics. Only doctors can say.


Myth №3.

Hot compresses, especially with ethanol, are a wonderful remedy.
Yes, but not for little children. Mix vodka with oil and warm it till 36-38 C (100 F). Steep cotton in this mixture and put it around a neck. Put any waterproof material on it and wind a scarf around your neck.

Myth №4.

Stop taking medicines when you are better.
No. It is necessary to take a course of treatment completely. Otherwise, the infection become resistant to these medicines.

Myth №5.

Angina is a result of catching cold.
No. Angina is an infectious disease. Catching cold just helps it to penetrate into organism. By the way we can catch one of the most dangerous pathogens of angina with food – milk, meat, vegetables- if a carrier of this infection touched them.

Myth №6.

Don’t bring temperature down.
To some extent. Temperature shouldn’t be more than 38,5C (101F).

Myth №7.

It is necessary to drink a lot – tea with honey, warm milk.
Yes, it is true.

Does anybody know any other remedies for sore throat?
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#233523 - 10/16/07 03:05 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Elena]
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Gargle with warm salt water--it does work--however, the best thing to do is see your doctor.

A sore throat could mean anything from infected tonsils to a strep infection.

I don't know what you mean by angina, which is, to me, heart pain rather than throat pain. Please explain.
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#233524 - 10/16/07 03:32 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: lizbeth]
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I don't know what you mean by angina, which is, to me, heart pain rather than throat pain. Please explain.


Angina is any disease of the throat marked by spasmodic attacks of intense suffocative pain. It is a heart condition marked by paroxysms of chest pain due to reduced oxygen to the heart as well. Heart diseases are often cased by complications in angina (sore throat).
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#233544 - 10/16/07 05:21 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Elena]
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Thank you, I never knew that before.
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#233760 - 10/17/07 06:44 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: lizbeth]
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When you go to a Dr. He would check that all out !
If he is a good Dr. !
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#233854 - 10/17/07 05:42 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Elena]
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Regarding Myth №6....
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Don’t bring temperature down.
To some extent. Temperature shouldn’t be more than 38,5C (101F).


Whenever I have a minor illness, viral or bacterial, I've always self-treated myself by trying to aid my system in doing what its natural defense is -- raise body temperature. For annoying colds, minor sore throats, coughs, anything that might be caused by a simple minor bacterial or viral infection, I help my body give itself a slight fever by taking hot baths, drinking hot soups and hot tea, staying bundled up and warm, etc.

Fever is your body's natural defense against infection -- most germs can only thrive and multiply well within a very narrow temperature range. A slight fever can be your best friend in combating a sore throat or cold. Most people become alarmed if their temperature rises to 100 or 100.5 degrees F, and they gulp down Tylenol or aspirin to lower their temp. Usually they do this prematurely, since lowering the temperature is counterproductive to the natural disease-fighting process, and prolongs the cold or sore throat.

I must stress, though, that only *slight* fever is beneficial for fighting an infection... a *very* high fever is just as bad for your body's cells as it is for the invaders. It has to do with the temperature at which proteins and enzymes begin to break down... if your temperature starts to climb above 101-102 it's important to bring it down before your own cells are damaged (105 degrees + would start to be very dangerous).

This method has also worked very well for me in the past for minor cuts, scrapes, and burns that showed signs of becoming red and infected. I have soaked the affected area in very warm water (or applied heat) for extended times and had threatened infections completely disappear from small cuts.

Caution: this is anecdotal advice, I'm not a medical professional, consult your doctor before treating yourself in any way, and never ever experiment on sick children with tips you get over the internet. \:\) And if you have a HIGH fever, persistent cough, or blood in your sputum, for heaven's sake get off the computer and see your doctor. All I wanted to say is that this method works for me. Oh, and take lots of Vitamin C, too. ;\)
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#234175 - 10/20/07 02:52 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Helice]
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Gargling with salt water works well on sore throats, just don't swallow the liquid, unless you want to poison your kidneys ;\) .

My mom uses to make up a mixture of egg white, lemon juice, and sometimes honey, which you could take from a spoon to help cut phlegm (though the lemon might be a little harsh if your throat is sore).

I have found that most warm drinks seem to sooth the throat.

Echinacea has been found to increase resistance to cold virus infections and to reduce the time spent with a cold, so perhaps you could add a good echinacea supplement to your arsenal against sore throats and flu like symptoms.
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#237509 - 11/13/07 12:24 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Myrddin]
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Hot liquids are great. My favorite is chicken broth, even unsalted is great. For a bit of an energy boost, chicken noodle does wonders.
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#274676 - 07/07/08 02:54 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: annie]
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Gargling with salt water doesn't work that good for me. I may not have a sore throat, but what is also good is gargling with mouthwash. But it might be strep throat, it hurts to talk and swallow. It's always good to drink hot liquids though, like chicken noodle soup. smile But I might have to see the doctor for this. It gets even worse every day, so if anyone knows what else I can do to help, please tell me. Thanks smile

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#274742 - 07/08/08 04:06 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Anonymous]
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Go to your doctor!

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#274802 - 07/08/08 08:16 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: lizbeth]
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The Doctor told me i have mono frown and u cant get eny Antibiotics for mono its heals on its own so watch for that u mite have mono too it mite not be a Sore throat...

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#274808 - 07/08/08 08:46 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Anonymous]
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After kissing a cute frog, I developed mono at the age of 13. It is dreadful. You must rest. I mean REST! Through out my teen years I had many relapses, then it all went away when I was in college. The sore throat is horribly painful! If you are an adult, and haven't an aversion to alcohol gargle with Jack Daniels. It has a numbing effect.
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#274872 - 07/09/08 04:12 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Chocolategenii]
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You can get Mono ones. Its kindda like chicken pocs its better to get mono as a teen more painfull as an Adult well thats what my doctor told me .If u get mono and you had it more then 2 months go to the Emergency room they will put u to sleep for few days and u wake up its all better smile



Get well soon to all of the sick Humans out ther :P

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#274888 - 07/09/08 06:01 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Anonymous]
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I have never had "mono" to the best of my knowledge, but I think its a viral infection, therefore antibotics would not help it. Perhaps some supplements that boost immune system health might help, but I am not a doctor therefore I can make no recommendation.
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#284018 - 10/05/08 06:45 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Myrddin]
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If I'm not mistaken, don' they have a vaccine for "mono" now? I gotta look at the kids' records.
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#284035 - 10/05/08 10:54 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: LadyPuma]
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No there is not a vaccine for mono. Myr, you would know if you had it. It is very disabilitating. I can't imagine having it as an adult. Adults tend to catch Barr-Epstein, another viral disease similar to mono. The only cure for mono is to rest a lot. The sore throat aspect of it is hideously painful!
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#284066 - 10/06/08 05:01 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Chocolategenii]
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I don't think that I suggested there was a vaccine.

Barr-Epstein can cause certain immune system over-reactions, and might be associated with certain auto-immune diseases.
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#284101 - 10/07/08 12:56 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Myrddin]
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No, antibiotics aren't going to help with the mono, but when you get mono your resistence is weakened so much that you can catch many other germs. When I had mono as a teenager I did end up getting a big shot of antibiotics and it did wonders for me.

Despite what one may think you can have reoccurrences of mono, and once you've had it the virus remains in your body for the rest of your life. I've had mono several times, but it was typically brought on when I had a sore throat and my resistance was very low.

Another thing that I've found that is good for fighting sore throats among chicken broth and gargling, is a teaspoon of honey. The honey coats the throat, and the natural bacterias in honey help to fight off the illness, but if you have a sore throat that continues or worsens it's best to seek medical help.
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#284116 - 10/07/08 10:35 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Myrddin]
Chocolategenii Online
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Originally by: Myrddin
I don't think that I suggested there was a vaccine.

Epstein Barr can cause certain immune system over-reactions, and might be associated with certain auto-immune diseases.


My apologies, I was not clear. I was confirming with you, or agreeing with you there is no vaccine for mono.

Here is an interesting article I found on the relationship between EBV and mono you all might find helpful.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/ebv.htm

One of the treatments recommended to relief the pain and swelling from a mono or EBV sore throat are steroids. I did not have this prescribed....this might be a relatively new treatment for this symptom.
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#284750 - 10/15/08 01:16 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: Chocolategenii]
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sore throat? Rum and freshly squeezed lemon juice. It may not fix it but you'll feel better. (and think you can dance well, sing on key, are irresistable to the opposite gender, can take on anyone in a fight, etc, etc.)
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#285495 - 10/24/08 02:22 AM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: draeco]
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Mononucleosis, Glandular Fever or 'Kissing Disease'.

No there is no vaccine.

Usually affects adolescents, hence the kissing disease thing I think. It certainly can be extremely serious. My nephew landed in hospital for 2 weeks with a secondary infection.

Follow any rules for HIGHLY CONTANGEOUS diseases.

Seems the secondary infections from an exhausted immune system seem to be the biggest risks with mono.
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#287691 - 11/16/08 04:02 PM Re: Sore throat. Remedies and myths. [Re: tutti]
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I was hospitalized as an adult with mono, there was no sore throat, but there were other interesting physical symptoms. I smoked cigarettes at that time, and when I lit one up, it tasted horrible, and for a while it was easy to quit smoking.

The real problem I had with mono was the mental effects. It put me into a horrible frame of mind. One of those states where I wanted to make four a.am. phone calls to everyone who had ever done me the slightest wrong, and tell them what bastards they are.

And the night sweats. That was truly horrible. The poor nurses at Roosevelt hospital had to change my bedsheets three times a night.

The cure? Rest, as everyone has said, and food. Eat as much as you can of whatever you like, you really need food if you have mono.

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