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#194766 - 09/02/06 06:30 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Poett]
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Hello Poett you asked,Where did you get this information? Please show me I want to know.

I read that a while back on the BBC website at work,but I found this.Now if this true then to me it would be possible for the American goverment to continue their experiments in Africa.Lets not forget that the red cross was found out recently to have infected people with Aids but they said it was an accident.They would say that wouldn't they.

The United States government did something that was wrong—deeply, profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to integrity and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist.
—President Clinton's apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to the eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997



For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.”

Using Human Beings as Laboratory Animals

The true nature of the experiment had to be kept from the subjects to ensure their cooperation. The sharecroppers' grossly disadvantaged lot in life made them easy to manipulate. Pleased at the prospect of free medical care—almost none of them had ever seen a doctor before—these unsophisticated and trusting men became the pawns in what James Jones, author of the excellent history on the subject, Bad Blood, identified as “the longest nontherapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history.”

Now Aint I have some friends around and I am showing them how it some times works here on foolmoon.People breeze over 80% of my post nit picking about if Africa is a country or continent without replying to the relevant points of my post.I just explained to them that when anybody does that I smile because that must mean that you Aint agree with post really.

I mean Aint let me ask you straight out do you think that the west/America being the main culprit blood sucks the god given reasources out of Africa at unfair terms or rates?Your go Aint.
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#194767 - 09/02/06 06:55 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: stone]
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Stone says:
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Debt relief would be a good place to start.




Can we do debt relief for our own citizens at the same time stone?
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#194769 - 09/02/06 07:22 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: cassielA]
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Well cassie, I missed how exactly the United States is responsible for the rabbit like nature of the sexual activities spreading disease in Africa?

Maybe I missed whatever it was you ment to say,lol...
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#194770 - 09/03/06 01:07 AM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: cassielA]
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You know, Cass, there are great riches and treasure in Africa, which would naturally be of value and of interest to non-African countries.

I think you can agree with me that the above paragraph is true. And then, I think you will agree with me again when I say that the best way for non-Africans to obtain all of this wealth is to kill every single human being alive on the African continent by infesting them with AIDS (SIDA for our Spanish readers) and then simply walking in and taking the continent.

Of course they might fly in or come in by ship, the method of transportation is irrelevant. The point is, every person in Africa will be dead of AIDS.

Nothing to it. True or lie?

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#194771 - 09/03/06 01:14 AM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Dax]
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But on the other hand, Cass, I see some problems in that.

Like, if people were travelling they'd spreads AIDS to the rest of the world, so you'd have to keep everyone from travelling. Everyone.

And who would you get to guard them? Who is going to want to go work in a country where everybody has AIDS?

And what do we do with these missionaries, and do-gooders, and doctors without borders, who somehow get in there and smuggle their cures and medicines?

I think I have a solution, at least the start of one. The Kimberly Diamond Mining Company has enough diamonds in its vaults to last several lifetimes. Every crummy jewelry store in every single city and town in the United States, Canada, and every other country sells diamonds. How scarce or rare could they be? So we don't need any more diamonds, so we start closing Africa by shutting down South Africa and Rhodesia or Botswana or whatever they are choosing to call themselves now.

Instead of infesting everyone with AIDS, we take the population and put them to work answering computer questions for large companies, like they do in India. Problem solved. Nobody co-opted. Living wage in South Africa. The only people getting screwed are the Americans. Are you with me? I'll bet you are!

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#194772 - 09/05/06 02:40 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Dax]
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Matt said,
Well cassie, I missed how exactly the United States is responsible for the rabbit like nature of the sexual activities spreading disease in Africa?

Black Africans and other races have been rabbit like for hundreads of years with some disease then your forfarthers came to them with their diseases and wiped millions off the face of the earth true or lie?I have asked this question before why is it in America you have a disease controll centre and not a disease irradiction centre?We know why for the new world order to come into being 75% of the human race has to die,but does the wicked do that?

http://www.rense.com/general71/gaycancer.htm

Thats Matt taken care of.Now for Dax Mr cool himself he said,
I think you will agree with me again when I say that the best way for non-Africans to obtain all of this wealth is to kill every single human being alive on the African continent.

To be fair some of us think that plan has been in operation for decades as I ask all the numptys who keep talking up the wests achievments in Africa.I say to them show me one place in Africa that the west can hold up and say look what we have done there.There are some on the African continent who also believe that the west means them no good that's why Putin is in African signing deals trying to catch up with the Chinese.

Africa will do deals with Russia and China if they promise real investment.China can have all the oil she wants if she buils up the continent building up the infastructure like China has built for herself in the last 25 years.I don't see any role for the west in the future I and others think it's to late for that,Africa has to look forwards.


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#194773 - 09/05/06 02:58 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Dax]
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I think that the major problem with AIDS in Africa is education, or more correctly ignorance. Many black African males believe that they can get rid of AIDS by having sex with a virgin. And as Dax has pointed out, AIDS in Africa will/has spread to the rest of the world. Africa does have great riches, which are being exploited, instead of being harnessed for that continents development.

South Africa has made a major turn around, as have some of the other African countries, but much of Africa, Sudan, Congo, etc. is run by tyrannical dictators and warlords. Personally, I would like to see the U.S. setup and African Military Command, as discribed in the previous weblink.

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#194774 - 09/06/06 01:11 AM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: cassielA]
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So they run around with multiple wives making multiple babies with each wife while they are infected with aids and its our fault?

Tell ya what Cassie, lets take over the United States Mint and blame it on Neil Armstrong for walking on the moon.
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#194775 - 09/06/06 07:23 PM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: cassielA]
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CassielA: show me one place in Africa that the west can hold up and say look what we have done there.



Show me one place in Africa where Africans can say that.

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#194776 - 09/07/06 11:32 AM Re: US-Africa Policy [Re: Dax]
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I wrote what I thought was a good response to your post Dax but the computer did not see it that way and lost the post,I am miffed.

Dax said,Show me one place in Africa where Africans can say that.

All I will say is if anybody looks at Africa since 1945 and looks at what happened in countrys like the Congo you had an elected goverment that was overthrown by house negro's supported by the west,thats one of the reasons why Africans cannot do what you asked.

This is why the Chinese and the Russians are being allowed to sign new deals in Africa they can have as much of the wealth of Africa as they want all they have to do is help build up the continent and deal with Africa fairly somthing the west has shown itself incapable of doing,true or lie?
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