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#154761 - 09/27/05 09:54 AM
Re: Dancing on the Graves of the Dead
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I know this doesn't exactly flow with the current placement of this thread, but this story could be construed as someone 'Damcing on the Graves of the Dead'. I figured Ray and a few others would like this one. Quote:
Sheehan Arrested During Anti-War Protest By Jennifer C. Kerr, Associated Press Writer Mon Sep 26,11:40 PM ET Cindy Sheehan, the California mother who became a leader of the anti-war movement after her son died in Iraq, was arrested Monday along with hundreds of others protesting outside the White House.
Sheehan, carrying a photo of her son in his Army uniform, rallied with other protesters in a park across the street from the White House and then marched to the gate of the executive mansion to request a meeting with President Bush.
The protesters later sat down on the pedestrian walkway in front of the White House — knowing they would be arrested — and began singing and chanting "Stop the war now!"
Police warned them three times that they were breaking the law by failing to move along, then began making arrests. One man climbed over the White House fence and was quickly subdued by Secret Service agents.
Sheehan, 48, was the first taken into custody. She smiled as she was carried to the curb, then stood up and walked to a police vehicle as protesters chanted, "The whole world is watching."
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#154765 - 09/27/05 12:25 PM
Re: Dancing on the Graves of the Dead
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"prostituted herself and her dead son"? Isn't that a little harsh, Lawmage?
Is your opinion that she really has no grief for the loss of her son, and is perhaps happy that he died in Iraq so that she has an "excuse" to protest it, thereby being "whacko"?
That sounds like an extreme position to me... I won't call *you* "whacko" for claiming a mother is happy her boy died in war so that she can dance on his grave, but I will opine that your support of the war and the administration is so strong, perhaps unreasonably strong, that to you any dissenting voice seems like traitorous "whining", bleating", "moaning", "dancing", etc.
If you set aside partisanship for just a moment, doesn't that position seem a little unreasonable, if not uncharitable?
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#154766 - 09/27/05 12:53 PM
Re: Dancing on the Graves of the Dead
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Actually, Helice, I do believe Cindy Sheehan is glad she has a hook with which she can publicize her anti-war agenda. I would not go so far as to say that she lacks any real grief over her son's death but I do not think that real grief and political opportunism are not mutually exclusive. In Sheehan's case, I think her political opportunism is pretty clear to those who can set aside their hatred for Bush and actually examine her behavior with an objective eye for a moment.
Now, as for the rest of your response...Helice, I think you know full well I am not happy with Mssrs Bush and Cheney and Rumsfield et al...My dissatisfaction with the administration grows stronger every day. I have not kept that dissatisfaction secret. Likewise, my personal opinion about the war is no secret. I have said since I got here to Fool Moon that I did not think the occupation of Iraq was wise or necessary. I supported the initial invasion, and still do. I think the removal of Saddam was the right thing to do and I think the only way to remove him was to use military force. I do not accept your contention that my "support of the war and the administration is so strong, perhaps unreasonably strong, that to [me] any dissenting voice seems like traitorous "whining", bleating", "moaning", "dancing", etc." I have rejected what I see as unfair or untrue accusations against the administration and about the war. That does not equate to support for the current conduct of the war nor for the administration. What it equates to is an interest in the truth and a rejection of untruths advanced for partisan purposes. I think you, and perhaps several other regular members, are intelligent and insightful enough to look at what I have actually said in any number of 3947 posts I have made to date and see what I really think of Bush, the rest of the administration, and the war in Iraq...and a host of other issues.
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#154770 - 09/28/05 10:40 AM
Re: Dancing on the Graves of the Dead
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I have rejected what I see as unfair or untrue accusations against the administration and about the war.
What accusations did Cindy Sheehan make about the administration and about the Iraq war that are demonstrably untrue?
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