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#145225 - 07/02/05 12:43 PM
Re: Iran Elects a War Leader
[Re: cassielA]
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Lawmage i am hearing on the news that this new leader in Iraq was involed in the America hostages been held in Iran in 1980.If this is proved to be true what do you think America will do about this?
I'm sure Law will have some good ideas about this, I think if it turns out to be true (or, come to think of it, even if it doesn't) the current administration will use it for the fullest propaganda purposes.
True or not, there isn't very much the US can do about it other than talk. Our leaders have already labelled Iran one of the "axis of evil" so there isn't much Iran can do to make it worse. Once you're at axis of evil, there's really no place to go.
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#145229 - 07/03/05 09:33 AM
Re: Iran Elects a War Leader
[Re: Aint]
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I thank you for your reply but you still havent told me how Iraq is like Vietnam. You tired to discredit my points but have offered none of your own.
Then I'll repeat the post you missed.
"The reasons why Iraq IS like Vietnam are much less stretched.
"We're in a war that began with a lie, that is almost impossible to win without just killing everyone in the country, and that people are coming to resent more and more. I wish this had happened before Bush's second term, because then there would not have been a second term, but even people slow to wake up eventually smell the coffee."
On the day of Bush's axis of evil speech, we were in Afghanistan, and properly so, since that's where the the attack on the WTC originated. I have always believed it was proper to send troops there.
But since then we've heard nothing much about Afghanistan and everything about Iraq, as though Iraq were a prime mover in the WTC attack and the financing of the terrorists. As though Osama bin Laden did not exist.
If you want to say that Iraq is a threat to the US today, then I'll agree, since everyone in the world who even slightly disliked or was envious of America now has the opening to show contempt for us. Bush doesn't care. Don't like him? He'll eat some worms. That's the grammar school mentality he offers as he follows the instructions of the Wolfowitz-Perl-Rumsfeld-Cheney-Rove cabal.
Is Iraq a danger to us now? Probably. Was in then? Not a chance. No WMDs, no plans to do anything to the US were ever found. And don't you think if they found one tiny scrap of paper in Saddam's hand that said "I dislike the USA" it would be broadcast and trumpeted and enlarged and shoved down our throats by the conservative press for weeks? O'Reilly still would be talking about it, and Hannity would have it tattooed on his adorable forehead.
Sorry Ain't. It's Viet Nam without the massive casualties, with only "acceptable" losses. It's worth it, those lives and limbs lost in Iraq, isn't it? Because we all feel so much safer now.
I have no particular reason to suggest these similarities, because the war in Iraq was wrongheaded even if Vietnam had never happened.
But the similarities are obvious, and ignored at your peril.
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