http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php New Articles Fool Moon - UBB.threads(tm) http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336215/Re_Atheism.html#Post336215 Posted by Cy_Click:
[quote=aus22]Dax, Thanks for describing downsing. In Australia our aboriginals call it water divining. the stick we call a divining rod. This might indicate it has some religious association. The Aboriginals claim that they had this skill for 40,000 years. ...... [/quote] I've heard them called divining rods and the practice called "Water Witching" so you might be right about the religious association. The religion might be dealing with the Earth more than Heaven, though. [quote] Despite what Helice says we Catholic recognize the aboriginal religion and we even use a message stick in our services. While some beliefs might be absurd we believe that was is in good in another religion comes from God. [/quote] But God just barely gives you direction on how to define "good" when believing this way, right? ]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 22:30:07 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336213/Re_Zimmerman_vs_Martin.html#Post336213 Posted by Cy_Click:
[quote=Aint] ........ Am I reading [b]this[/b] right? Saying something untoward is now justification to use violence against someone? ........ [/quote] Actually there is such a thing as "fighting words" which have been made illegal in many jurisdictions. It seems to be known as the Fighting Words Doctrine. From a freedomforum.org article...... "Citing Chaplinsky, the court determined that the applicable test was whether the words used would "reasonably incite the average person to retaliate."" The test was for whether the use of the words was protected by the 1st Amendment or unprotected. It seems this is used to take First Amendment rights from certain acts and speech so I'm not sure how an assault case would turn out if the claim was the assaulted used "fighting words" to instigate the event and cause a retalitation but don't be too suprised. ]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 22:18:30 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336211/Re_To_Compete_on_English_Soil.html#Post336211 Posted by Aint:
[quote]One of the most controversial scenes shows the athlete running through a war cemetery for the fallen of the conflict for the islands 30 years ago.[/quote] Poor taste and bad sportsmanship. A war cemetery is for people who fought in a real blood and bullets war. Playing ball is not the same competition, by far. ]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 21:30:05 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336209/Re_Protecting_the_Caucasian_Ra.html#Post336209 Posted by Aint:
[quote=Chocolategenii]Nah, but she might run off with a woman. :) [/quote] That could still work out :/ ]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 21:17:58 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336207/Re_Discrimination_or_Poor_Cust.html#Post336207 Posted by Aint:
But we didn't have any patched members with us. There have been 3 piece members with us before and that alone is not the issue. Being in a club is fine. It's the club one is in that matters. If somebody is riding around wearing a Pagan or some other outlaw 1% patch, that's a sign that reads "I am criminal and/or I associate with and profit from organized criminal enterprises" and I have no problem with cops stopping them. Now if they're wearing a vest with patches that read "Ride Safe", "Toys for Tots" or "Bikers do it two up" and the cops want to harass them, then it is harassment. Even if it's club patches, the cops know who is who. And it's not every member of so called 1% clubs that is a criminal, but the groups as a whole are well know trouble makers. They pride themselves on it. If you dress like the St. Louis Cardinals, expect that people think you play ball. ]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 21:05:48 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336180/Re_Interfaith_Creed_or_Woman_p.html#Post336180 Posted by Dax:
Okay, get back to us without the spam and we'll take you seriously.]]> Wed, 16 May 2012 10:31:23 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336165/Re_DISD_Spends_1_1_Million_on_.html#Post336165 Posted by Aint:
In the first three months of 2012, the Dallas Independent School District spent more than $1.1 million on travel expenses such as hotels, airplane tickets, meals and registration fees for dozens of employees. These were travel expenses to attend seminars and conferences. Apparently the topic of which was how to layoff 200 people and cut 700 teaching jobs while your educational system spirals downward like cigarette butts in the boys room. The money they have spent in three months could have paid 20 teacher salaries for a year, according to NBC5. You want to know where the money for teacher pay has gone. Junk junkets. Try a video conference. If they haven't cut the AV club yet, setting it up would be a great project.]]> Tue, 15 May 2012 22:26:53 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336157/Re_purgatory.html#Post336157 Posted by aus22:
Dax, I not sure I can get very far withn Grams on this topic. Purgatory seems to be a word that frightens people of her protestant belief. Just as Martin Luther left the church on this issue I think the Modern Protestants can see no common ground. However you might see some merit in this. Purgatory is not a permanent reward or punishment. If you are certain of going to hell, there is no point in being good. If you are certain of going to heaven there is no need to be good. But if you are not certain of either than perhaps you will try to be good. Not just to escape hell but to lessen your time in purgatory. To me we will all spend some time there. Some sins even if forgiven need to extirpate before we can go to heaven. If we have made good friends on earth who pray for us, the time in purgatory can be lessen. How this happens I do not know but I accept this on faith.]]> Tue, 15 May 2012 20:20:31 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336145/Re_Buzzards_Gotta_Eat.html#Post336145 Posted by Aint:
I guess that's all that would matter, if you were a vulture.]]> Tue, 15 May 2012 17:57:04 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336115/Re_BEFORE_I_WAS_A_MOM.html#Post336115 Posted by Grams:
THIS WAS IN OUR CHURCH PAPER YESTERDAY ! Before I was a Mom- I never held down a screaming child so that doctors could do test..or give shots. I never looked into teary eyes and cried. I never got gloriously happy over a simple grin. I never sat up late hours at night watching a baby sleep. Before I was a Mom- I never held a sleeping baby just because I didn't want to put it down. I never felt my heart break into a million pieces when I couldn't stop the hurt. I never knew tht something so small could affect my life so much. I never knew that I could love someone so much. I never knew I would love being a Mom. Before I was a Mom- I didn't know the feeling of having my heart outside my body. I didn't know how special it could feel to feed a hungry baby. I didn't know that bond between a mother and her child. I didn't know that something so small could make me feel so important. Before I was a Mom- I had never gotten up in the middle of the night every 10 minutes to make sure all was okay. I had never know the warmth. The joy, the love, the heartache, the wonderment or the satisfaction of being a Mom. I didn't know I was capable of feeling so much before I was a Mom. [i] [b] We never know the love of the parent until we become parents ourselves. [/b][/i] Henry Ward Beecher ]]> Mon, 14 May 2012 13:44:02 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336105/Re_Beatitudes_for_Mother_s_Day.html#Post336105 Posted by aus22:
Selene, That is a good prayer. Thank you.]]> Sun, 13 May 2012 20:01:52 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336089/Re_Out_of_Asia.html#Post336089 Posted by Chocolategenii:
The question of whether or not Humans originated in Africa or Elsewhere is largely a matter of perspective. Just because we discovered our African ancestors first and thus established Africa as the birthplace of Humankind...doesn't mean we have to stick with a migration model that now flies in the face of conflicting evidence. There is an argument to be made for the Out of Asia model as well. http://www.edge.org/conversation/rethinking-out-of-africa]]> Sat, 12 May 2012 03:02:15 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336087/Re_Vote_Gary_Johnson_2012.html#Post336087 Posted by Helice:
Well, that list sounds pretty reasonable, for the most part. Did you leave out the crazy? Most Libertarians have a good helping of crazy somewhere in their platforms. ;) ]]> Sat, 12 May 2012 02:16:21 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336085/Re_President_Obama_and_VP_Bide.html#Post336085 Posted by Helice:
[quote]Gotta wonder though. If the US is such an anti gay type Christian minded nation and "the black community does not condone homosexuality", how can this not cost him dearly? Or maybe "the black community" and "the democrat community" will vote for any Democrat or black man who is not Republican. [/quote] There's a changing of the guard going on. Young folks have grown up with greater social awareness and tolerance than their parents and grandparents possessed, and all the old haters are all going to be dead sooner or later. In the 1990's, the US public in general was only about 27% in favor of gay marriage. In 2012, the US public is nearly 65% or so in favor of gay marriage. That's a big change in awareness and tolerance, and in my opinion, a good change. So this will rile up all the elderly bigots who hate the homos and they'll toddle their walkers out to vote for the anti-gay feller even if they think he *is* a Mormon polygamist cult member, but pretty much everyone under 40-45 is going to use different criteria for their vote. A good portion of under-40's aren't frightened or threatened at all by gay people, married or otherwise, and eventually, they will have the majority just through attrition. If the younger set votes for Romney in large numbers, it will be for reasons entirely unrelated to support or repudiation of gay rights. The US [u]was[/u] a strongly anti gay type Christian minded nation, and its older members still are. But they can't last forever. As for "the black community", whether they as a whole can be said to reject homosexuality may or may not be true. There certainly are a few very loud-mouthed preachers who get media coverage who claim to speak for all African Americans, whether they do or not. But all African-American voters have to do is look at what the Republican party offers them in the way of vote deprivation and renewed Jim Crow laws, and they'd have to be pretty damned stupid to vote for anyone except the Democratic party's candidate, whoever that might be.]]> Sat, 12 May 2012 02:08:24 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336075/Re_Health_questions_from_Grams.html#Post336075 Posted by Grams:
Hello Dax, I did go shopping and did pick up the M. I have not used them yet. But when I do feel like I may not be tired before bed. Then I will try them. Thank, I will let you know when and if they work.. :)]]> Thu, 10 May 2012 21:00:01 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336069/Re_Not_a_Republican_Much_Longe.html#Post336069 Posted by Cy_Click:
[quote=Chocolategenii] .......but I am more interested in your opinion of Jon Huntsman and the possibility of a third party, based of course of Huntsman's political stances? [/quote] Wouldn't this be a fourth party, if you were to count the Tea Party caucus chaired by Michelle Bachmann? All I've heard about Huntsman is he's decided to speak out against the more obvious disbeliefs of the current Republican talking points. Would his "fourth party" be similar to the Tea Party but with more intelligent slogans?]]> Thu, 10 May 2012 16:59:59 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336067/Re_US_Soldier_Murders_Women_An.html#Post336067 Posted by Cy_Click:
[quote=stone]I think the socialism that most of Western Europe has practiced and the heavy handed totalitarianism that the Soviets practiced are worlds apart. [/quote] Okay. Then when the Republicans call the Democrats socialists and communists they're not using the scariest argument they could use. I suppose they're staying away from the Soviet argument because we still need them as an enemy. [quote] And you weren't seriously asking what's so bad about the Soviets, were you? [/quote] Well, that's not hard to ask now that they're gone. I suppose having another banker around to support our debt might mean it's good they're not around to compete with China in that regard.]]> Thu, 10 May 2012 15:47:34 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336047/Re_Entertainment_not_religion_.html#Post336047 Posted by odellkewish:
I like the way you explain the things. Keep working.]]> Tue, 08 May 2012 23:20:49 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336030/Re_Rep_Louie_Gohmert_speech_ac.html#Post336030 Posted by Dax:
Louis Gohmert shamelessly lies all the time, but his actions are no different from his fellow "Conservatives." I put the word in quotes because these assholes are not real Conservatives, they use some financial and social conservatism to spread the notion that they are real Conservatives. They aren't. They're selfish, greedy, bribe-infused, crony-loving liars and thieves who'd sell the person they love most in the world to human traffickers if they could make a dollar. That's who Gohmert is, and that's pretty much who all those Santorumesque liars and ignoramus tea-party swindlers are.]]> Tue, 08 May 2012 10:31:08 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/336010/Re_Can_your_doctors_lie_to_you.html#Post336010 Posted by Dax:
If a woman, after visiting an Arizona doctor and being told her fetus was fine, then gave birth to a child without a brain, (as has happened) or otherwise doomed to a short, agonizing existence, I'd think there might be some violence perpetrated against that doctor. It's a leaf out of the anti-abortionist's handbook, shoot the doctor who isn't doing things the way you want them done. If the doctor is behaving legally, it might still be medical malpractice. For example: it's not illegal to use paddles to revive a patient. But if the doctor uses them in a careless or incompetent manner, causing harm to the patient, he can be sued. I assume the same would be true in these non-abortion cases, If it happened in my family, I'd take full page newspaper ads mentioning the doctor and giving the details. That would then limit the doctor's practice to those who don't mind being lied to. ]]> Mon, 07 May 2012 08:55:52 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335997/Re_Bejeweled.html#Post335997 Posted by Grams:
and again......... I guess this game is more my speed ? :) But why is there only one way to play this game now ? Before there was 2 different way's to play now only one...... ]]> Sun, 06 May 2012 13:28:16 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335988/Re_Meat_Glue.html#Post335988 Posted by minesadorada:
I wonder if surgeons and sticking plaster manufacturers have heard of it?]]> Sun, 06 May 2012 02:12:22 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335977/Re_Do_Blondes_In_the_Solomon_I.html#Post335977 Posted by Chocolategenii:
TYRP1, a genetic mutation that doesn't appear in European genomes is responsible for the rare dark skin/blonde hair pigmentation of Melanesian Islanders. This genetic mutation is different from the HERC2 mutation responsible for blue eyes...which arose from a single common Eurasian ancestor between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago. http://www.livescience.com/20078-gene-mutation-blond-hair.html [quote]Residents of the Solomon Islands in the Pacific have some of the darkest skin seen outside of Africa. They also have the highest occurrence of blond hair seen in any population outside of Europe. Now, researchers have found the single gene that explains these fair tresses. A single mutation is responsible for almost half of the variation in Solomon Islanders' hair color, the scientists reported Thursday (May 3) in the journal Science. Most strikingly, this gene mutation seems to have arisen in the Pacific, not been brought in by fair-haired Europeans intermarrying with islanders.[/quote]]]> Sat, 05 May 2012 09:50:48 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335966/Re_Marian_Appearances.html#Post335966 Posted by aus22:
In another post Cy Click ask about the so call appearance of Mary and their message. There have been several appearance of Mary mother of Jesus claimed over the years. The only twoi accepted by the Church is worthy of consideration are Lordes in 1858 and Fatima in 1917. Appearance have been claimed in Canada, Ireland ,Italy , Mexico ,Korea, Northern Ireland Ukraine and several states of the USA. None have been approved by the Church. This includes Medjugcoate in Crotia in 1981 and in Garabandal in Spain in 1961,Although the Church is still investigating them. The appearance seem to concentrate in saving sinners. At Lourdes the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary was confirmed. At Fatima a vision of Hell was given. People were ask to pray for sinners so they would not go to hell. Mary also asked to pray for the conversion of Russia and this has led to an anti Communist crusade. Russia has cease to be Communist but it has returned to the Orthodox Church. I am not sure this is a conversion. A third secret about the attack on a Pope has been said to forecast of the attack on Pope Paul vi. Catholics are free to accept these appearances or not. However it is conservative Catholics that seem to encouraged devotions to these appearances.Some have even condemned Vatican 2 and saying that All religions are equal.]]> Thu, 03 May 2012 20:38:56 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335960/Re_Obama_to_Iran_quot_I_mean_i.html#Post335960 Posted by Cy_Click:
[quote=Dax] ......... Believe little of what you read in the papers, my friends, and less than a little of what you see on tv. ......... [/quote] I remember a "Rockford files" episode from 25-30 years ago where there was something about this big corporation keeping computer records on every citizen of the U.S. or world to be used for something or other and the episode had some sort of a "warning" feel to it. I think I found the story line credible. I think it was (from IMDb website, another evil computer use, I suppose) "The House on Willis Avenue (24 Feb. 1978)" A user review..... "........ Tooley was hired by Al Steever(Hesseman)to do some research on a shady councilman, who has some dealings with the shady Garth McGregor, brilliantly played by Cooper, who's the mastermind behind the computer development. This episode took place in 1978, and I wonder if the term "computer" had a negative connotation as this evil technology to take over the world; at the end of this episode , there's a short statement or public service announcement regarding how the "computer" may in fact exist and is legal, which I found very odd but I digress. ........" I guess I took the "warning" a little differently. ]]> Wed, 02 May 2012 21:03:10 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335957/Re_My_Family.html#Post335957 Posted by Grams:
Thanks Dax, I am trying ! But it sure is taking a long time. I could not believe how many different kind of exercises their are . And he is just now starting to do the ones he was doing before all of this happened. And then there is the weight, it is coming off so slow. That to is longer to do in old age. He has lost over 20 lbs. ]]> Wed, 02 May 2012 16:42:31 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335953/Re_Dude_Where_s_My_293_Cars.html#Post335953 Posted by Dax:
I wonder whose brother in law owned the Prius dealership.]]> Wed, 02 May 2012 08:02:39 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335904/Re_Spirituality_vs_Religiosity.html#Post335904 Posted by DCInC:
Hi Lord Viskey: [quote=Lord Viskey]This seems problematic enough to consider that no religion has the authority to be the "expert" on the topic of universal, absolute, or esoteric truth so long as there is no agreement amongst them as to what that is, or they refuse to let it be in the public domain. [/quote]'Authority', as a term used within religiosity, has been given the duty by leaders of religious organizations to instill something that doesn't come from yhwh, namely, authority. That might seem strange to say but that's how I now understand it in comparison to what I understand about the teachings of yhwh regarding this living existence. 'Esoteric truth' has been established by religious organizations to, knowingly or unknowingly, be contrary to the teachings of yhwh. Religious organizations thrive on 'authority' from their 'God', not so they can teach any truths of yhwh that they might happen to know, but instead to lord it over their laity, in the manner of the Nicolaitans of Revelation 2:6, 15 with the teachings of men about their manmade 'God'. But yhwh gives his authority to no one else as it seems to me. That's because yhwh does not have authority, perhaps? Why would the only all powerful, righteous being that exists need any authority? With the might (capability) to chose to do only those things that are right, then a saying, 'right is might', fully and exclusively applies to yhwh, the exact opposite saying of mortals about themselves that, 'might is right'. yhwh neither has nor needs authority. Mankind places 'authority' upon their 'God' so it can be usurped from him in a feeble attempt to raise themselves up thinking that gets them into the kingdom (or rather the mistaken notion of 'heaven'). (Luk 16:14-16) With that in mind, yhwh, the only all powerful of the elohim (gods), hands out his power to others to lesser or greater extents to fulfill the purpose of his kingdom which is ultimately the continuous expansion of his righteousness throughout his living creation. How those to whom yhwh hands out his power respond is their choice and has nothing to do with the supposed authority of yhwh that is actually non-existent. Those who do not heed the teachings of yhwh, to follow his ways of righteousness, become as those Nicolaitan-type religious organizations, not possessing any power of yhwh so invent a 'God' from whom they can claim a self-professed, powerless 'authority'. At those times past when it might appear religious organizations had power/authority, it instead seemed manifest in the shadow of a prominent government. So I whole-heartedly agree with you that much of the truth escapes, or is manipulated by, religious organizations because as long as there is more than one religious organization, or if there is ever only one (ie. the coming single religious organization of the beast and false prophet) that does not heed the teachings of yhwh (that will quickly fail), then the whole of absolute truth and (a) religious organization(s) will NEVER co-exist in this age. [quote=Lord Viskey]...which brings to mind that it is cautioned both clearly and wisely in the Kabbalah that all descriptions of God are necessarily wrong, because an infinite, timeless consciousness can have no characteristics that can be properly translated into physical terms.[/quote]I was once convinced of that idea. However, since studying the Hebraic language, mostly with regard to its paleo nature, along with some of the teachings]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:10:44 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335903/Re_SOMETHING_CUTE.html#Post335903 Posted by Grams:
The computer swallowed Grandma. Yes , honestly it's true! She pressed "control" and "enter" And disappeared from view, It devoured her completely. The thought just makes me squirm She must have caught a vieus Or been eaten by a worm. I've searched through the recycle bin And files of every kind; I've even used the internet, But nothing did I find. In desperation, I asked Jeeves My searches to refine The reply from him was negative. Not a thing was found 'online.' So, if inside your 'inbox' My Grandma you should see, Please 'Copy', 'Scan' and 'Paste' her And send her back to me. [i]A tribute to all the Grandmas and Grandpas who have been fearless and learned to use the computer. Submited by: Sue Duby [/i] Please excuse any mistakes, I myself have not learned to copy on to the computer as yet. Maybe one day. ]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:38:14 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335833/Re_The_2012_Election.html#Post335833 Posted by Dax:
I wonder if anyone voted in those primaries? It seems pointless.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:20:06 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335829/Re_Not_a_cloud.html#Post335829 Posted by Grams:
Looks like he was having fun ! But I still wonder what its doing to the air we breath ? And the money it takes to be doing that day after day. With , how many ? ]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:39:43 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335824/Re_Diablo_3_RMAH.html#Post335824 Posted by Aint:
Diablo 3 is out in beta. I know a guy who is playing and he likes it. He says the graphics are immensely better than any of the others. I played 1, 2 and Hellfire, but I'm on the fence about 3. What's interesting is the RMAH. Real Money Auction House. Diablo never had an AH. If you wanted to buy and sell items with other players, you did it one on one, face to face. D3 has two AHs. One AH is very WoW like. You buy and sell with in game gold. Fake money. The RMAH, Real Money Auction House, allows players to buy and sell using real money. Now, this real money thing is rampant in WoW, even though it is illegal. People do it on the sly. D3 has decided to cash in on this market. By the time public launch is out, you will be able to use approved third party pay sites to use real money to buy and sell in a second RMAH. Battlenet gets a cut on each transaction. They say you will even be able to pocket the real money in your real pockets. I don't see how this won't result in a glut of gold farmers. Gold farming, faring for items or gold to be sold for real money, is already rampant in games where it's illegal. D3 makes it legal!? It's going to be a gold farmer rush. PVP is really going to suck. The winner will be the player who bought the best gear. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. ]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:03:45 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335821/Re_Loss_of_Internet_in_July_pr.html#Post335821 Posted by Aint:
I'm using Kapersky now. I like it. ]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:27:00 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335798/Re_A_Conservative_American_pri.html#Post335798 Posted by aus22:
Dax, I believe in Australia only church buildings are tax free. Schools and other church own businesses are tax. The Church in Australia owns no radio or television stations. Church services are rarely on TV.v. It is apparent that Father Menzies is often on TV in the USA. Most priest here keep out of politics., In any case they have little influence. We have separation of church and state to the extent that religion is not discussed in polite circles in public]]> Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:40:48 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335789/Re_Power_to_the_people_is_acce.html#Post335789 Posted by Dax:
Welcome to FM, foxbrent. Jury nullification is unlikely to be used by the authorities, because it was the authorities that brought the case that the jury is nullifying.]]> Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:27:28 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335788/Re_What_do_you_think_about.html#Post335788 Posted by foxbrent:
..I dunno maybe just some superstitious belief.]]> Tue, 24 Apr 2012 05:46:45 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335786/Re_The_Inky_Side_to_Science.html#Post335786 Posted by foxbrent:
No doubt about that, scientist is one of the interesting people (didn’t anyone think how they can do those things?).]]> Tue, 24 Apr 2012 05:23:45 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335785/Re_Google_Art_Project.html#Post335785 Posted by foxbrent:
Great!! This is astounding, an online museum of all museum. Thought you’re referring to the Google Doodle that’s recently held.]]> Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:55:12 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335775/Re_Beltane_and_Christianity.html#Post335775 Posted by aus22:
Many people who do not believe that Jesus Christ is God still call themselves Christian. I do believe He is part of the Godhead. However as I said elsewhere the person we see as Jesus is not the complete God.]]> Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:46:59 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335771/Re_Resurrections.html#Post335771 Posted by Grams:
[quote=shedoni]Re: [quote]Hi Grams: Hmmmmmmm. Diverse. You got me there.[/quote] DCInC, I think I see the problem......Took me some time and head-scratching to figure out that Grams [i]probably[/i] meant to write "[u]deserve[/u]" as opposed to "[u]diverse[/u]." ::lol:: [/quote] Yes I miss spelled the word and when I looked at what my options was I did not look close enough, and took it for granted. Sorry ! ]]> Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:58:12 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335746/Re_Should_pre_teens_be_allowed.html#Post335746 Posted by Cy_Click:
There must be more to this. Please register a user name and discuss your concern for the worst.]]> Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:48:12 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335724/Re_Lookie_here_Reagan_says_tax.html#Post335724 Posted by Dax:
Look--taking thirty percent off of two million leaves the taxpayer with only one million four hundred thousand dollars. Do you want these people to starve?]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:02:16 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335717/Re_So_Much_For_The_Constitutio.html#Post335717 Posted by Cy_Click:
[quote=Chocolategenii][quote=Cy_Click]Do we think these lawmakers just don't understand the scope of these electronic devices or is there more purpose to their legislation? Would this amended law, for example, allow prosecution of anti-Christian opinions if someone was offended that those opinions mocked or insulted their God? [/quote] Which Arizona law? ......... [/quote] Specifically, I was talking about the law regarding electronic devices but I would think the questions I asked would apply to most of the additional laws and amends. Does it help to question the motive for these changes to understand just how unconstitutional they are or would it be better to just assume all new laws are unconstitutional, simply because they are laws, and consider how much better off we'd be without laws?]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:31:54 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335712/Re_MK_Ultra.html#Post335712 Posted by stone:
I suppose you think Operation Blue Book was fake also, eh? ]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:45:00 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335711/Re_Pink_Slime.html#Post335711 Posted by stone:
I'll eat it. The ingredients can't be that much worse than scrapple and I could eat scrapple all day long. ]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:40:36 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335708/Re_White_man_killing_blacks_in.html#Post335708 Posted by ANukularDecider:
And you're right Wake, hate crimes are only a misdemeanor in Oklahoma. By Glenn Schroeder There have been repeated calls from leaders of Tulsa's black community to treat the Good Friday shooting spree that left three people dead and two people wounded as a hate crime. Tulsa City Councilor Jack Henderson has said he has no doubt it was a hate crime: “You have an individual who comes into a predominately black community…a white male…shoots 5 people all African Americans…to me that’s a hate crime.” In Oklahoma a first conviction of the state's hate crimes law is a misdemeanor and carries up to a year in jail, the exact same penalty as unlawful possession of marijuana. 19-year-old Jake England Alvin Watts, 33, are being held in connection with the shootings. Both are being held on more than $9 million each. They are scheduled to be arraigned April 16. from Krmg.com]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2012 02:35:52 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335697/Re_The_Tea_Party.html#Post335697 Posted by Cy_Click:
If you were a Michelle Bachmann type tea-bagger you might find moving there more tolerable than moving to Africa.]]> Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:02:24 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335680/Re_Rick_Santorum_s_dumbing_dow.html#Post335680 Posted by WakeHolden:
Well, it looks like Brother Santorum will not be the President of the USA or the CSA this go round. Might it be that it wasn't actually the Lord telling him stuff and what about all those folks who believed in him so fervently? I guess he wasn't a Moses figure after all. Apparently there will be no exodus back to 1957. So many left behind to face the onslaught of the wicked Obama and his minions of Demoncrats. Woe!]]> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 02:00:16 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335679/Re_Downton_Abbey_addicts_discu.html#Post335679 Posted by WakeHolden:
Thomas seems determined to become Lord Grantham's valet now that Bates is in prison and will be for a while (well, at least through two or three episodes) but what if Thomas tries to put the make on Lord G.? And what is the reason for portraying Dr. Clarkson as being a somewhat incompetent physician who regularly misdiagnoses patients? Yes, he owes his position to the family and estate, but still. Does he REALLY screw up later on in a big way? Not only are the Crawley sisters and the rest of the upstairs inhabitants disfunctional, so are many of the servants. I like Anna, for example, but falling for Bates seems to have been a poor decision thus far. Cousin Matthew and Mary will no doubt get married, but I suspect that they will end up having to face even more challenging events than Sir Richard and a dead ambassador's son in her bedroom. I expect she'll also get pregnant right off. ]]> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 01:44:16 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335655/Re_Easter.html#Post335655 Posted by aus22:
Dcinc> I afraid this is one case where Catholics do not take a verse as literal. We believe that the Passover that was performed by the Jews in ancient times was absorbed into the Mass. We believe that by celebrating the Last supper Mass we are keeping the passover in modern form. Just as animal sacrifices was replaced by other sacrifices in modern times in most religions. Even the Jewish race was not guaranteed to last for ever. Hitler nearly destroy it and it could be destroyed in the future. God message is for all mankind not just one race.]]> Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:17:54 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335631/Re_The_changing_understanding_.html#Post335631 Posted by aus22:
DCinC, It is true that transubstantiation one place where we take the Bible literately. However other issues we do not take so literately. We celebrate the Last Supper on Thursday night but if could have been Wednesday. If Christ die on Friday then it is hard to make three days before Easter Sunday. The date of Easter varies between Eastern and Western churches so the actual date is still disputed.]]> Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:02:35 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335528/Re_Nothing_New_Under_the_Heave.html#Post335528 Posted by Cy_Click:
So marriage is like a pancake?]]> Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:48:22 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335527/Re_Lotto_Sales_Cash_Only.html#Post335527 Posted by Cy_Click:
I say the last three winners buy us all a ticket. And one for themselves as they'd be pretty much broke.]]> Sat, 07 Apr 2012 14:08:50 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335510/Re_Stones_Channel.html#Post335510 Posted by Aint:
Paddle faster. I hear banjos. ]]> Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:37:16 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335508/Re_Cops_Commiting_Crimes.html#Post335508 Posted by Cy_Click:
These documents were obtained by the ACLU? Well, any red-blooded American knows the value of that organization so I wouldn't put too much worry into that. Sprint is offering this information for sale? Sprint is not a government agency, in theory, so what's the Constitutional problem with that? I imagine their disclosure information says they can sell it to anyone, anyone. If the Constitutionally protected citizen doesn't want governement officials having access to this very important terrorist-stopping information they can just not look at it. Seems simple enough to me. The Tucson police department uses this type of "surveilence" quite a bit? I knew of a contact (all hearsay from credible sources) in the Tucson Police Department, that, for some crack, would simply delete information from a computer data base and "clear up" any suspicions that might come up. I suggest if it worries you to have this information known to the TPD you find yourself this inside source and take care of that problem.]]> Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:15:50 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335430/Re_Dick_Cheney_has_a_heart.html#Post335430 Posted by WakeHolden:
We represent the Lobbyist League, The Lobbyist league, The Lobbyist League, And in the name of the Lobbyist League, We wish to welcome you to Wash-ing-ton! We represent the Political Action Committees, the Political Action Committees, the Political Action Committees And in the name of the Political Action Committees, We wish to welcome you to Washington. We welcome you to Washington, Tra la la la la la la From now on you'll be history. You'll be history, you'll be history, you'll be history. And we will glorify the corporate name, the corporate name, the corporate name Because corporations and people are the same And no we don't feel the least bit of shame It's all part of our crooked selfish game To hand the Republic over to our Wall Street Gang, our Wall Street Gang, our Wall Street Gang. And we don't really care if you go bust That's what you get for ever trusting us So you lost all the money in your 401K And you live with your mother out in Santa Fe You should'a known better is all we can say. We wish to welcome you to Washington, to Washington, to Washington. Tra la la la la la la, hiss-boom-yea! ]]> Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:32:35 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335395/Re_Hitler_and_Christianity.html#Post335395 Posted by Grams:
[quote=Dax]But back to the topic, all this does not answer my second question, which is "why does God care if someone sees him?" [/quote] Well Dax, I sure can wait , since I know were I am going ! I know I will see GOD one day. And I am very happy with God with what ever HE does or say's. That is the difference in believing and being saved ! I myself feel this way. I cant speak for any one else ! I was never told to read the bible till I went to this church. I know now they all do. But when I was going to the C.C. They did not. And I did not learn much at all. [i] Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. [i/] [b] Just in case you wanted to see the rest of the verses that went with those, its below .[/b] [i] Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Rom 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Isa 45:24 Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed. [/i]]]> Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:06:29 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335383/Re_The_Republican_Brotherhood_.html#Post335383 Posted by Cy_Click:
One little excercise I think people could do which may help them decide their vote is to make a connection between what Republicans say someone else is doing which people should disapprove of and the subsequent acts they do which are exactly what they were criticizing. After a couple of dozen of these instances think about what it means when the say Obama is destroying America. ]]> Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:58:43 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335328/Re_Hybrid_Vehicles_Would_You_B.html#Post335328 Posted by stone:
[quote=Aint]50G for 21mpg? No thanks. Not even if it is a 4 door 4x4. The Honda Insight starts at about 18G. Low 20s more realistically. Granted, it's not a truck, but it does get mpg in the 40s. Toyota Prius is 20 something to 30G and gets into the 50s mpg. The Prius C is supposed to be 18-20 something G and get the same mileage as the larger Prius. [/quote] And both are boring as hell that are the complete opposite of fun to drive. For the same price as a Prius you could have a new, sporty, extremely fun to drive Civic SI which will get you around 35mpg(my cousin swears his 2008 gets closer to 40mpg). And that's just a regular combustion engine car. Personally, I think hybrids are gimmicky. ]]> Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:41:02 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335268/Re_Glock_22_used_to_kill_2_kid.html#Post335268 Posted by Dax:
He would not prevail in an insanity defense. His sickness doesn't match the legal definition, and irresistible impulse would be a foolhardy defense. But no matter what the legal definition was, this case is so emotion based, no jury on earth would acquit the guy. ]]> Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:19:53 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335253/Re_Now_Criminalizing_Passive_R.html#Post335253 Posted by Dax:
What was the last incident of a Tea Party member being arrested or even hassled by the cops?]]> Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:34:47 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335247/Re_California_Terminal_Cancer_.html#Post335247 Posted by smithgolf:
What could be allowed is a canabis use area for patients. ]]> Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:49:15 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335208/Re_Not_In_Our_World.html#Post335208 Posted by aus22:
Anukulardecider. I am am sorry to say the video was blocked in my country because it contain copyright material from EMI. Welcome to the nanny state Australia. We solve the voting problem by making it compulsory.]]> Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:29:03 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335140/Re_Flesh_Eating_Robots_Are_Com.html#Post335140 Posted by Aint:
As long as they're only eating the enemy... ]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:53:27 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335134/Re_Illegal_to_Photograph_Cops.html#Post335134 Posted by Dax:
Police are photographed every single day. I point you towards "Cops" now in its 28th or 20th year, and the many other similar shows about law enforcement officers. If they make photographing cops illegal, you can imagine the litigation from the show producers and stations. Daylight is almost always more in the public interest than darkness.]]> Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:15:17 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335097/Re_Good_Bye_Belo_Monte_My_Home.html#Post335097 Posted by aus22:
Each state in Australia has built a de-salinization plant. These were started during the drought but no we have floods can not be used. We are still paying for them. Thy might be useful when the rain stops as it always does in Australia. This might seem a waste of money but no politictian can allow its major cities to run out f water. Yet projects that cost less money like wind power and solar are being phased down as they cost too much money. Even anti logging legislation have been opposed because they cost the government money or more likely a private company a chance to make money. In the end saving money in the short term will cost us much more in the long term.]]> Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:16:52 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335073/Re_Can_The_President_Execute_Y.html#Post335073 Posted by Dax:
Atty General Holder is starting to sound a lot like former Atty General Alberto Gonzales.]]> Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:55:00 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335070/Re_Judge_Allows_Muslim_To_Atta.html#Post335070 Posted by Cy_Click:
[quote=Aint]The story now is that the case was thrown out on insufficient evidence. A cell phone video was not allowed as evidence. Still though, the judge did make those comments. Rumor is, zombie Pope was not attacked. [/quote] Which comments is it that he made?]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2012 23:48:07 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335068/Re_Guantanamo.html#Post335068 Posted by Chocolategenii:
My niece is stationed at Gitmo....and I am making plans to visit her this summer...if all works out. Just grab a flight on Sunshine Air :) I too had thought Gitmo was being downsized, but from her reports...it is here for some time to come. ]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:34:21 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335058/Re_Icy_Finger_of_Death.html#Post335058 Posted by Chocolategenii:
[quote=minesadorada]Crichton's book 'State of Fear' is well-written and convincing. Here's the refutation: [url=http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/michael-crichtons-state-of-confusion/]http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/michael-crichtons-state-of-confusion/[/url] [/quote] Yes....so convincing that he (Crichton) establishes very clearly (in the book) that commie California is run by a bunch of crazy right wingnuts from Orange County. Ha! We all thought the libs owned this state. Go figure?]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:38:39 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335028/Re_Did_Jesus_Have_A_Brother.html#Post335028 Posted by Selene:
[quote=Dax]I'll put in a word to management, and it's only ten blocks north of Lincoln Center, a nice walk if the weather is warm. Have a wonderful visit. And now back to the topic at hand. Jude 1:1 says "Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James..." Why does he identify himself in this way?[/quote] It is accordance with the custom that a man identify himself by his brother's name instead of the father, when the brother was better known. That was the case with Jude when it is inferred from the title "the brother of James", by which he designates himself in his Epistle. Jude is identified as "Judas Jacobi" ("Jude the brother of James" in the Douay Version) of Luke 6:16 and Acts 1:13, otherwise known as Thaddeus (Matthew 10:3; Mark 3:18). ]]> Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:51:07 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335020/Re_Utah_is_for_Utah.html#Post335020 Posted by Cy_Click:
They can always secede, assuming the land is not on a border or something where they might not be able to prove ownership.]]> Tue, 06 Mar 2012 22:50:09 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335019/Re_Indiana_Legislature_OKs_Use.html#Post335019 Posted by Cy_Click:
If the Supreme Court ruled there is no right to resist an entry by police how will a law saying otherwise not be struck down again? I think the bill is a bad idea because it assumes police will be entering homes willy-nilly, therefore, the people should be able to resist them, using force, if they feel like it. If police commiting unlawful acts were penalized for those unlawful acts perhaps their crime rate would go down without the necessity to shoot them.]]> Tue, 06 Mar 2012 22:47:08 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335011/Re_The_weather.html#Post335011 Posted by Grams:
We are going to be 61 tomorrow ....... What a crazy winter we have had. It was really cold the last few days. We have had more rain then snow. ]]> Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:07:06 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335010/Re_Israel_vs_Iran.html#Post335010 Posted by aus22:
Cy Click, I think you have a point. The only way to prevent other countries having nuclear weapons is to bomb the universities and burn the books. Just like any other weapon invented Iran and a host of other countries will acquire the atomic bomb no matter what the USA does. Whether they will use it will depend on what they learn in history in these universities and books. Some weapons like gas were not used in WW2 because WWW1 show it was harmful to both sides. I suspect the fact that the Atomic Bomb has not been used foe sixty years proves that those with these weapons have learn the same lesion. Atomic Bombs harm both sides and are too dangerous to use in war. This applies even to Israel. It is such a small country that two bombs could destroy it. Destroying Iran will be much harder and if if it did Israel will have even more enemies in the arab world.]]> Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:29:51 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/335007/Re_Pimpin_Aint_Easy.html#Post335007 Posted by Dax:
What do you mean "in this day and age"? Republicans have always been behind the times in almost everything they do, and have always been mean-spirited and anti-woman. They have always wanted to be left alone to conduct their businesses by their own standards, without any government agency checking up on them to see if they have given short weight to buyers, or ignored safety features or produced inferior and sometimes hazardous products. Just let us alone, they say, and the market will take care of it. But of course, everyone knows it won't. Criticize them enough and they'll do their level best to take away your rights to free speech, while at the same time claiming that such enlightened ideas as feminists being Nazis and sluts are quite proper and respectable things to say. Republicans hate women, fear sex, and are confused and confounded by anyone who seems to be enjoying life. I guess, like Rush Limbaugh, they are all just entertainers. Poor ones, bigoted, selfish, greedy ones, but entertainers. The only problem is, nobody's entertained.]]> Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:02:55 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334988/Re_Syria.html#Post334988 Posted by Dax:
That's because McCain thinks it's Serbia. ]]> Mon, 05 Mar 2012 20:40:11 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334930/Re_Dept_Homeland_Security_Watc.html#Post334930 Posted by stone:
Probably smells better coming out the front than the back. ]]> Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:58:13 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334929/Re_Texas_man_refuses_service_t.html#Post334929 Posted by jackdiddley:
A doctor refusing to give medical care is just wrong. The same goes for denying services based on race, gender, sexuality etc. However, I don't have an issue if the refusal is based on your political outlook. That hairstylist was within his rights to refuse service. The same for those who don't let Obama supporters in their car park. It's private land after all. It may not be good business sense, but they are entitled to do it.]]> Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:38:05 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334916/Re_The_YHWH_No_One_Knows.html#Post334916 Posted by DCInC:
Oops ::blush:: ... ... There will always be [b]some[u]thing[/u][/b] to learn on this subject.]]> Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:12:54 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334915/Re_FYI_Mr_Romney.html#Post334915 Posted by Dax:
Yes, you should always let employers speak for you. Every day your employer wakes up thinking about how he can help you and make your day brighter, right?]]> Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:38:26 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334911/Re_A_Simpler_Question_I_Hope.html#Post334911 Posted by DCInC:
Hi Chocolategenii: [quote=Chocolategenii]My understanding of the word Elohim, is that it is used in both plural and singular forms in the Bible; depending on the context. So Elohim is not always plural. This is why I am asking for clarification...I too am searching.[/quote]That's what I once understood when I started looking into these things. However, I have never had anyone give me a totally solid reason why 'elohim', which is plural in form, like virtually all other plural Hebrew words, should be singular. Context cannot in itself be reason for picking one or the other because context is easily read into the Hebrew script depending upon one's doctrinal influences or cultural background that very easily happens if preconceived notions differ significantly from that of the ancient Hebrews. Without any doctrines involved, the Hebrew word 'elohim' is plural as it stands and totally fits the surrounding text perfectly in the plural sense. Consequently, with that straight forward approach, that is, reading what is in the scriptures as it stands on its own, traditional doctrines fall very hard. Modern 'rules' of grammar and other aspects of the Hebrew language have continued on since its standardizing documentation by the Masoretics over a 1000 years ago summarizing the previous centuries with the changes that occurred AFTER the first century CE within the Hebrew language. But it is admonished by yhwh that nothing is to be added to or taken away from the torah contrary to the what the Masoretics did directly with their dots and dashes. Not only do traditional doctrines fall very hard but those manufactured rules of grammar are often not followed giving way to 'exceptions' within the Hebrew grammar rules to further the myth of a singular 'elohim'. For instance there is a translating convention of grammar that says when two nouns appear together, the second 'modifies' the first. For instance 'yhwh of hosts' in the Hebrew actually appears as 'yhwh hosts'. There is no direct Hebrew word for 'of' in this phrase. But when 'yhwh elohim' appears in the scriptures, in English it is 'LORD God' rather than 'yhwh of mighty ones' (LORD of the gods). Go figure. It took me one long time to sort than one out because traditional modern Hebrew grammar doesn't tell you about it or if it does it comes up will all types of 'exceptions' to the rules. :) And there are many more 'inconsistencies' that are unexplained by or totally contrary to even the rules of grammar that mankind came up with to try to cover the name of yhwh which only causes more confusion that the scholars have to explain somehow. It takes a multitude of lies to cover up one initial lie, so to speak. yhwh is not an el of confusion. He would not have come up with a language with rules, and 'exceptions' to those rules, that would have generated the mess that mankind has created of the English scriptures today. But the Masoretics weren't the first to rearrange the scriptures, in their efforts to standardized and stabilize a newly developed form of the language in Aramaic square script as the Hebrew alephbeyt has had numerous font changes since the exile of the Israelites to Syria and Babylon. The House of Judah left many of its doctrines behind in Babylon which culminated in the modern Judaism we see in Israel today which is somewhat different from the Judaism that the House of Judah developed in Jerusalem after their return from exile to the city. 'Jesus' criticized the H]]> Thu, 01 Mar 2012 10:26:13 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334906/Re_Hello_Helice_Welcome_Back.html#Post334906 Posted by stone:
Me and the girl went to our local favorite buffalo meat house last night. Locally raised bison that taste OH so orgasmically good. Little petite steak that are covered in a house sauce with a huge portion of lump crab and a side of mashed sweet potatoes, garlic mashed potatoes, pea pods and carrots in some sort of citrus sauce. It's to die for. Of course for the app we go with smoked buffalo slices on crackers with a horseradish sauce and brie cheese. So incredibly good. Buffalo kills even the best steak. ]]> Thu, 01 Mar 2012 07:47:33 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334905/Re_STOP_the_Fluoride.html#Post334905 Posted by stone:
Sounds like the good doctor has an agenda. The CDC isn't the only group doing these studies. Studies have been done the world over and the overwhelming conclusion is that fluoride, in low amounts, is safe and beneficial to people. From cancer.org... http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/CancerCauses/OtherCarcinogens/AtHome/water-fluoridation-and-cancer-risk [i]Osteosarcoma seems to be the cancer about which the most concern has been raised. One theory on how fluoridation might affect the risk of osteosarcoma is based on the fact that fluoride tends to collect in parts of bones where they are growing. These areas, known as growth plates, are where osteosarcomas typically develop. The theory is that fluoride might somehow cause the cells in the growth plate to grow faster, which might make them more likely to eventually become cancerous....[/i] [i]More than 50 population-based studies looking at the potential link between water fluoride levels and cancer have been reported in the medical literature. Most of these have not found a strong link to cancer. Just about all of the studies have been retrospective (looking back in time). They have compared, for example, the rates of cancer in a community before and after water fluoridation, or compared cancer rates in communities with lower levels of fluoride in drinking water to those with higher levels (either naturally or due to fluoridation). Some factors are hard to control for in these types of studies (that is, the groups being compared may be different in ways other than just the drinking water), so the conclusions reached by any single study must be looked at with caution.... [/i] On the other hand, Alex Jones would agree with you... :-D http://www.infowars.com/poison-tap-water-exposed-as-soft-kill-weapon/ ]]> Thu, 01 Mar 2012 07:41:21 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334897/Re_Holy_Cow_H_R_1830.html#Post334897 Posted by Dax:
Considering that the government permits cigarettes and alcohol, they really ought to ease up on the raw milk thing. They must be under the thumb of, oh...maybe the dairy lobby?]]> Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:55:59 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334885/Re_Last_Missing_American_In_Ir.html#Post334885 Posted by ANukularDecider:
[quote=Dax]And Reagan raised taxes like eleven or twelve times during his terms in office, so I guess Grover Norquist wasn't around then. He was also the first President to base economic policy on the criminally unworkable "trickle down" theory which enriched the rich and further impoverished the poor. And the defanging of the FCC, which is why Bravo can show seven minutes of content followed by five minutes of commercials. And the Iran-Contra scandal. And banking deregulation. Yeah, he was a great President all right, But one thing is true--he was at least ten thousand times better than any of the Republican clowns running today. [/quote] How sad is that?]]> Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:42:39 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334867/Re_Anti_Virus_Software.html#Post334867 Posted by Aint:
I've been using Avast. Me likey. They came out with a new feature that lets you rate the web sites you visit. It's sort of like Firefox's Web Of Trust. It's crowd source, so you get the unvalidated opinions of the public at large. So far though, it's legit.]]> Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:38:05 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334831/Re_Oklahoma_Personhood_Act.html#Post334831 Posted by WakeHolden:
I was always told that life began when a guy bought a girl the first drink.]]> Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:00:14 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334813/Re_Attack_on_Australian_Pm.html#Post334813 Posted by aus22:
The various attacks on Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard have resulted in a vote among Labor Members of Parliament on who should be Prime Minister. Unlike the USA our leader is not elected by the people directly but by her or his party. She or He is the leader of the party with the majority of seats. Gillard is being challenged by ex Foreign Minister and former leader and PM, Kevin Rudd. He has resigned as foreign Minister while in the USA and return to Australia to contest the poll. While he more popular with electors than Gillard he is not with Labor members who regard him as arrogant. He is expected to lose the vote. This is a tragedy for Australia. A foreign Minster who brought the USA into an Asian alliance and speaks Chinese has gone out of the ministry. A man when PM saved Australia from the recession is gone.Labor will lose the next election under Gillard and the opposition unpopular Conservative leader Tony Abbott will be PM ]]> Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:21:06 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334795/Re_Biblical_Questions.html#Post334795 Posted by DCInC:
Hi Dax: [quote=Dax]The question that arises from your answer is Why did God or gods put the tree there in the first place if it was not to be eaten?[/quote]The 'gods' put it there for only the gods to 'eat' from. It was also put there so that the humans would be able to learn what it would take to become 'gods' of a higher level, like the 'gods' who formed them. That could only happen if humans would knowingly accept the responsibility of acting only righteously if made capable of living forever. The stories that follow the happenings in the garden throughout the scriptures give much of the insights into that process of understanding what righteousness is all about and it relates to eternal life. [quote=Dax]Do loving parents put a bottle of ammonia within reach of their child and then punish the child for tasting it?[/quote]Hardly. But from time to time you read a newspaper story about how some so-called parents cause great harm to their kids for no good reason causing the child all kinds of grief up to and including death. A number of the 'gods' are like that. satan, for example. So when the Hebrew term 'elohim' is inappropriately rendered as 'God' instead of 'gods' in many instances the English Bibles make it look like 'God' is the meanie whereas it is actually the 'gods' that are doing such things. Plus there are a number of irregularities of translation causing this apparent problem of a mean old 'God' in the OT. I've mentioned various ones in other threads and get into bit of that below. [quote=Dax]God is supposed to love mankind more than anything, yet the book of Genesis is loaded with references to God being angry, destroying his creations, punishing not only man but all the livestock on earth (except for Noah's) because of man's screwups.[/quote]Your example about Noah is one of those instances where it looks like 'God' is doing the "destroying" if you believe the English translations, but is that the case when one actually digs deeper into the original language? Consider this 'God/gods' example regarding the story of Noah ... Gen 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before [b]God[/b], and the earth was filled with violence. Gen 6:12 And [b]God[/b] looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. Gen 6:13 And [b]God[/b] said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy [u]them[/u] with the earth. (KJV) (emphasis y DCInC) ... when compared to ... v3 And those of the Earth were defiant to the ways of [b]the supreme ones[/b] and violence (and war) was ongoing on the Earth. v4 And [b]the supreme ones[/b] who accompanied the Earth, observed the corruption, which was causing the destruction of all of the flesh that walked upon the Earth v5 And [b]the supreme ones[/b] advised Nakha that the end of all flesh was upon them because of the violence. This would come upon [u]men and the fallen ones[/u] who had destroyed the Earth. (The Chronicles Project (TCP) - Paraphrased Version - Book 4 - Chapter 1) (emphasis by DCInC) I have emphasized where the Hebrew 'elohim' (mighty ones) occurs with boldened font to point out the differences. The KJV makes it sound like one 'God' where the TCP describes numerous "supreme ones". But what else is going on here? It ISN'T the 'mighty ones' destroying the earth either according to TCP. The giants, or fallen ones, who were not descenda]]> Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:10:03 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334774/Re_The_Dawn_of_a_New_Era.html#Post334774 Posted by WakeHolden:
While both Dawn and Era are quality household cleaning products, I fail to see what either has to do with protecting the general public from alien abduction.]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:43:34 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334772/Re_Nudity_or_no_nudity.html#Post334772 Posted by WakeHolden:
Please learn some measure of self control and internet etiquette, and don't send me any more nude pictures of yourself posing with your Beanie Baby collection, ok? I am not interested in having a relationship with you or your sister Darlene.]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:40:42 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334771/Re_Whatever_happened_to_Tarzan.html#Post334771 Posted by WakeHolden:
I read somewhere that Tarzan is seriously considering leaving Spain and moving to a country where the economy is better. The Chinese have been talking with his agent, and rumor has it that they made him a very lucrative offer to live in China and co-star in a series of jungle adventure movies featuring a much younger Chinese Tarzan figure named "Number 1 Son". Instead of monkeys like Cheetah, there will be a Panda named "Ling Lang."]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:36:08 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334761/Re_How_to_Convince_a_Girl_That.html#Post334761 Posted by Grams:
I believe that :>)]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:01:34 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334759/Re_Warning_Massachusetts_Borde.html#Post334759 Posted by Cy_Click:
For being unfamiliar with the area, they sure picked up a gun, unfastened their seatbelt and got a lot of fireworks in a hurry. What, are those things mandatory when going the other way?]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:30:46 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334758/Re_Black_Eyed_Children_And_Who.html#Post334758 Posted by WakeHolden:
[quote]See you soon, Holden...[/quote] Promises promises promises. Not once in over ten years has anyone followed up on such plans. Obviously an impostor has infiltrated the ranks. I suppose now I'll be forced to post photos of all the black-eyed children which have been anonymously sent in by concerned parents and friends of these enigmatic individuals. Wake-up-Holden indeed.]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:40:59 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334746/Re_Religious_symbolism.html#Post334746 Posted by aus22:
Minesadorada, The problem is that secular governments do employ people to perform religious duties. For example as Chaplains in the army, jails and hospitals. Clergy who perform this function might wear a uniform or civil clothes when performing other duties. But when performing the duties of chaplain they are more effective if they wear the cloths associated with that role. Franciscan priests in my area have found themselves more acceptable if they wear their robes, (brown habit)( in hospitals.]]> Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:51:36 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334732/Re_Buy_More_Gas_Save_Money.html#Post334732 Posted by Dax:
Cy, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that the Auto Industry and the Oil industry are not in cahoots. Allow me to disabuse you of that notion. :)]]> Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:22:18 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334716/Re_Synthol_Freaks.html#Post334716 Posted by Aint:
Dudes desperate to look buff are shooting up with synthol to make them look more muscular. This junk is squirted into muscles (or where muscles should be if they bothered to exercise a little) and it pumps them up. It makes the area look like stretched out oil filled sacks is what it does, because that's what it does. Synthol does not build muscle at all. Synthol stretches out skin and muscle and makes the injected areas look bruised and blood blistered. When these morons screw it up they get infections and blow outs. It's kinda like putting too much water in a balloon. Pop! Look at this freak. No way his arms are that "ripped" but the rest of him isn't. And it looks nothing like muscle. It looks like elephantiasis. Just quit it. ]]> Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:44:47 EST http://foolmoon.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/334688/Re_Advise_Me.html#Post334688 Posted by minesadorada:
[quote=Ardnejar66]Is it fair to have a lover outside marriage? [/quote] You use the words 'outside marriage' which implies it is a secret (else it would be 'another lover inside marriage') It's not OK to have secrets from your partner that could affect the marriage. It is the dishonesty that is destructive. ]]> Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:52:00 EST